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Why is home advantage not a credible advantage in tennis?

Don't think ive seen this one discussed.

I find it interesting that in team sports like soccer, rugby, sailing, cricket etc teams playing at home have a major advantage, yet in tennis like at the US open, Aus open, Wimbledon etc, seldom do the home players seem to get any real advantage infact seem to perform very poorly.

Is there any obvious reason for this, is home advantage just a thing that affects team sport? Maybe it's different for the davis cup or whatever but even the doubles players in tennis dont seem to perform that much better at home.

Im talking here about talented players poor records at home grand slams. Murray last year at Wimbledon, Roddick at US open (did okay against Fed in 07 but barely scraped through in 03). Hewitt at Aus open etc.
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Re: Why is home advantage not a credible advantage in tennis?

You're really only talking about RG, and that's because the French don't have the balls to not choke.

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Re: Why is home advantage not a credible advantage in tennis?

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I find it interesting that in team sports like soccer, rugby, sailing, cricket etc teams playing at home have a major advantage, yet in tennis like at the US open, Aus open, Wimbledon etc, seldom do the home players seem to get any real advantage infact seem to perform very poorly.
You've given the answer by yourself.
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Re: Why is home advantage not a credible advantage in tennis?

It is because tennis is different to rugby, football etc.

For example Manchester United play at Old Trafford like 50% of their matches and they train there etc. While a tennis player from Australia plays at Rod Laver Arena like a couple of times.

Football etc. actually have a "home" while tennis you don't.

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The real reason: tennis is a mug sport, run by mugs, supported by mugs, and most importantly, played by mugs.

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Re: Why is home advantage not a credible advantage in tennis?

Home advandage is not a credible advandage in chess either.

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Re: Why is home advantage not a credible advantage in tennis?

But home turf IS an advantage in tennis. Roddick has won the US Open and the reason Murray lost badly last year was a strong opponent combined with fatigue after his 5 setter against Gasquet, not because he couldnt face the British crowd.

Racing post did a survey about two years ago and the average ATP player performed significantly better on home turf than abroad. So much for this thread.
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Re: Why is home advantage not a credible advantage in tennis?

Unless you´re French, playing at home soil is normally a small advantage, at least in motivation
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Re: Why is home advantage not a credible advantage in tennis?

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It is because tennis is different to rugby, football etc.

For example Manchester United play at Old Trafford like 50% of their matches and they train there etc. While a tennis player from Australia plays at Rod Laver Arena like a couple of times.

Football etc. actually have a "home" while tennis you don't.
A tennis players home country still is "home". Familiar environment, language, food, friends and family, crowd support. I would say most players enjoy playing in their home country a lot, with some exceptions who dont like attention and pressure, such as Mauresmo and Gasquet.
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how do you think Duckboy won his only fluke slam..............
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Because the tennis crowd usually doesn't throw to rival players bottles, metal balls or even a pig's head.

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Re: Why is home advantage not a credible advantage in tennis?

Well for individuals, sometimes the pressure for playing for your country can be counter-productive, whereas in team sports you can rely on your team mates if you are having a bad moment or a bad day.

In the Davis Cup, if you are alone in the court, it does not really matter if your team mates are rooting for you, they can't play in the court with you.

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Re: Why is home advantage not a credible advantage in tennis?

Because the French are natural cowards, the British suck at tennis and the Aussies too now. Americans have won a handful of USOs.

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The methods and drugs used by Armstrong in 1999 would work in tennis right now, with zero chance of being caught (not slightly surprising to anyone familiar with the topic, btw).
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Unless you´re French, playing at home soil is normally a small advantage, at least in motivation
and in spite of this probably the 2 biggest tournament wins by frenchmen this decade came at home. Tsonga and Grosjean in Paris.
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