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Do you think Nadal's game will be exposed at the French Open?

Murray and Djokovic hit the ball with pace that was able the show weakness in Nadal's game. They was hitting hard to his backhand side to hit a winner to the forehand side when balanced.Both of them used angles to get Nadal moving instead of them. They were not able to keep the aggression up to beat him.Players need to keep the level high throughout the match to be able to beat him.

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Re: Do you think Nadal's game will be exposed at the French Open?

Absolutely. Nadal will be lucky to win a match.

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Re: Do you think Nadal's game will be exposed at the French Open?

The thing is very simple. Any mug knows how to beat Nadal on clay. The problem is, only very few players (Murray, Djoko and Fed, all when in form and in a great day) can beat him over a 3-set match. In a 5-set match, right now, I just can't see anyone getting the better off him.

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The thing is very simple. Any mug knows how to beat Nadal on clay. The problem is, only very few players (Murray, Djoko and Fed, all when in form and in a great day) can beat him over a 3-set match. In a 5-set match, right now, I just can't see anyone getting the better off him.
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Re: Do you think Nadal's game will be exposed at the French Open?

only way for nadal to lose is a severe injury. even playing with a minor injury, he would destroy the field.
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Nadal will go out in the 1st round of the french to dick norman

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Re: Do you think Nadal's game will be exposed at the French Open?

Rafa's game isn't technically perfect, but it's amazingly effective, combine that with his passion and drive and you have the key to his success, someone will have to be able to out-power and out-passion him to do so

is still too early on clay season to talk about this, because we've only seen him on a tournament and even not playing his usual clay level he managed to defeat everyone on his way, we have to wait to see if he's gonna play like that all clay season long or if he will step it up later

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I think the only way to beat Nadal at Roland Garros is too be the luckiest fucking son of a bitch in the universe. My opinion.
That's another way of putting it.

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Absolutely. Nadal will be lucky to win a match.
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Re: Do you think Nadal's game will be exposed at the French Open?

I have not the slightest clue what Nadal has to do to prove him being among the top 2 greatest clay court players ever.

He can't go back and beat Borg or "super Muster".

But beating Coria, Gaudio, Federer, Davydenko, Djokovic, Ferrer, Ferrero, Moya, Gasquet, Hewitt, etc on clay is not enough as they all are abysmal on clay, ignore the fact Federer whooped Kuerten a few times on clay, that Moya and Ferrero both won French opens that Davydenko is a great clay courter.....

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Re: Do you think Nadal's game will be exposed at the French Open?

Doesn't matter what Djokovic and Murray try tactically, they are too error prone to beat Nadal on clay. They aren't consistent enough, too many unforced errors and especially unforced errors on crucial points which Nadal specialises in. So there is no winning tactic when you aren't able to win the crucial points and keep your errors down. That is the real reason why Nadal is the best on clay, he plays the big points well (there are many big points as more breakpoints occur on clay than any other surface) and is able to keep the ball in play longer than anyone else.
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Murray and Djokovic hit the ball with pace that was able the show weakness in Nadal's game. They was hitting hard to his backhand side to hit a winner to the forehand side when balanced.Both of them used angles to get Nadal moving instead of them. They were not able to keep the aggression up to beat him.Players need to keep the level high throughout the match to be able to beat him.
This has always been the way to beat Rafa. The problem is that nobody can keep this up for a long time on clay. They're usually grasping for air after few long rallies.
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Re: Do you think Nadal's game will be exposed at the French Open?

No 5-setters and not that many tiebreaks played. I'd say RG is where Nadal's game tends to be the least exposed.
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Re: Do you think Nadal's game will be exposed at the French Open?

as rafa said after the murray match, he played too defensive in the end of the 2nd set and made attacking him easier, and he said i he was a little more aggressive like he usually is, he would have made it harder to attack him and made murray/djokovic go for winners from difficult high risk positions!
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Only person who can beat Nadal on clay is Fat Dave, if he doesn't choke on MP.

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