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2009 Updated ATP "Race" Thread

Okay, so there is no official ATP Race this year, but I thought I could post a Race here then, since it should be interesting to see how players are doing this year. I will count here only Grand Slams, Masters 1000, ATP 500, ATP 250 and Challengers (no Futures). I think this could be made sticky on General Messages. I will post always the top 100. Let me know if there are any mistakes. It will be interesting to see as well how balanced are the Challengrs with the ATP, since this yaer the official rankings are going to be a bit messy, because 2008 points are doubled there.

Updated on Jun 15th (Queens, Halle and CHs compled)

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Rank     Player                        Points Low 500 Low Opt
1	Rafael Nadal (ESP)             6885     80      -
2	Roger Federer (SUI)            5460      -      -
3	Andy Murray (GBR)              3780      -    250
4	Novak Djokovic (SRB)           3700      -    150
5	Juan Martin Del Potro (ARG)    2580      -     70
6	Andy Roddick (USA)             2440      -     90
7	Fernando Verdasco (ESP)        2040      -      -
8	Fernando Gonzalez (CHI)        1825      -      -
9	Robin Soderling (SWE)          1650      -    105
10	Tommy Robredo (ESP)            1580      -    250
11	Jo-Wifried Tsonga (FRA)        1450      -    250
12	David Ferrer (ESP)             1330     45     90
13	Radek Stepanek (CZE)           1320     10    250
14	Marin Cilic (CRO)              1260      -    250
15	Gael Monfils (FRA)             1240      -     20
16	Gilles Simon (FRA)             1145     10     45
17	Stanislas Wawrinka (SUI)       1085      -      -
18	Nikolay Davydenko (RUS)         975      -     20
19	Nicolas Almagro (ESP)           855      -     45
20	Juan Monaco (ARG)               770      -     25
21	Philipp Kohlschreiber (GER)     755      -     75
21	Tomas Berdych (CZE)             755      -     65
23	Viktor Troicki (SRB)            745      -     10
24	Tommy Haas (GER)                735      -      -
25	Ivan Ljubicic (CRO)             700      -      -
26	James Blake (USA)               690      -    150
26	Lleyton Hewitt (AUS)            690      -      -
28	David Nalbandian (ARG)          665      -     90
29	Jeremy Chardy (FRA)             662      -     10
30	Mardy Fish (USA)                655      -    150

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Rank     Player                         Points Low 500 Low Opt
31	Mikhail Youzhny (RUS)           640     14      20
32	Jose Acasuso (ARG)              625      -      10
33	Richard Gasquet (FRA)           605      -      90
34	Albert Montanes (ESP)           600      -       -
34	Andreas Beck (GER)              600      -       8
36	Juan Carlos Ferrero (ESP)       584      -       -
37	Igor Andreev (RUS)              580      -      20
38	Mario Ancic (CRO)               547      -      12
39	Dudi Sela (ISR)                 541      -       -
40	Sam Querry (USA)                540      -      20
41	Jurgen Melzer (AUT)             520      -      10
41	Paul-Henri Mathieu (FRA)        520      -      20
43	Benjamin Becker (GER)           516      -       -
44	Janko Tipsarevic (SRB)          515      -      20
45	Guillermo Garcia-Lopez (ESP)    504      -       -
46	Andreas Seppi (ITA)             495      -      20
47	Victor Hanescu (ROU)            475      -      10
48	Marc Gicquel (FRA)              474      -       9
49	Evgeny Korolev (RUS)            447      -       -
50	Florent Serra (FRA)             445      -      20
50	Julien Benneteau (FRA)          445      -      20
52	Mischa Zverev (GER)             444      -       4
53	Christophe Rochus (BEL)         440      -       -
54	Fabio Fognini (ITA)             425      -       -
54	Florian Mayer (GER)             425      -       -
56	Martin Vassallo Arguello (ARG)  420      -      20
57	Maximo Gonzalez (ARG)           416      -       -
58	Frederico Gil (POR)             415      -       -
59	Oscar Hernandez (ESP)           396      -      12
60	Simone Bolelli (ITA)            385      -      20

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Rank     Player                         Points Low 500 Low Opt
61	Ivo Karlovic (CRO)              380      -      45
62	Potito Starace (ITA)            370      -      20
63	Arnaud Clement (FRA)            363      -      18
64	Marcos Baghdatis (CYP)          360      -       -
65	John Isner (USA)                347      -       -
65	Michael Russel (USA)            347      -       -
67	Fabrice Santoro (FRA)           343      -       -
68	Thomaz Bellucci (BRA)           339      -       -
69	Pablo Cuevas (URU)              337      -       -
70	Ivo Minar (CZE)                 331      -       -
71	Marat Safin (RUS)               330      -       -
72	Juan Ignacio Chela (ARG)        327     20      20
73	Feliciano Lopez (ESP)           325      -       -
73	Marcel Granollers (ESP)         325      -      20
73	Teimuraz Gabashvili (RUS)       325      -      14
76	Marcos Daniel (BRA)             323      -       -
77	Horacio Zeballos (ARG)          319      -       -
78	Rui Machado (POR)               317      -       -
79	Ernersts Gulbis (LAT)           315      -      10
80	Michael Llodra (FRA)            308      -       -
81	Yen-Hsun Lu (TPE)               301      -       -
82	Bjorn Phau (GER)                298      -       -
82	Kristof Vliegen (BEL)           298      -       -
84	Daniel Koellerer (AUT)          292      -       -
85	Brendan Evans (USA)             290      -       -
86	Daniel Gimeno-Traver (ESP)      288      -       -
86	Michael Berrer (GER)            288      -       -
88	Wayne Odesnik (USA)             285      -       -
89	Jan Hajek (CZE)                 284      -       -
89	Jarkko Nieminen (FIN)           284      -       -

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Rank     Player                         Points Low 500 Low Opt
91	Olivier Rochus (BEL)            283      -       -
92	Dmitry Tursunov (RUS)           280      -      20
93	Josselin Ouanna (FRA)           277      -       -
93	Victor Crivoi (ROU)             277      -       -
95	Danai Udomchoke (THA)           275      -       6
96	Flavio Cipolla (ITA)            272      -       4
97	Santiago Ventura (ESP)          262      -       -
98	Marco Chiudinelli (SUI)         261      -       -
99	Steve Darcis (BEL)              260      -       -
100	Daniel Brands (GER)             259      -       -
101	Lukasz Kubot (POL)              254      -       -
102	Santiago Giraldo (COL)          253      -       -
103	Paul Capeville (CHI)            249      -       -
103	Stefan Koubek (AUT)             249      -       -
105	Sergiy Stakhovsky (UKR)         247      -       -
106	Jan Hernych (CZE)               245      -       -
106	Nicolas Kiefer (GER)            245      -       -
108	Dominik Hrbaty (SVK)            230      -       -
108	Peter Luczak (AUS)              230      -       -
108	Rainer Schuettler (GER)         230      -      35
111	David Marrero (ESP)             228      -       -
111	Ivan Dodig (CRO)                228      -       -
113	Leonardo Mayer (ARG)            227      -       -
113	Robert Kendrick (USA)           227      -       -
115	Blaz Kavcic (SLO)               225      -       -
116	Lukas Rosol (CZE)               223      -       -
117	Alberto Martin (ESP)            222      -       -
117	Nicolas Lapentti (ECU)          222      -       -
119	Mathieu Montcourt (FRA)         220      -       -
120	Igor Kunitsyn (RUS)             219      -       -
120	Laurent Recouderc (FRA)         219      -       -

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They wont finish lower at the end of 2009. Mark my words.

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Good job, Man!!! Very interesting thread.

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Re: 2009 Updated ATP "Race" Thread

Federer should be 8th equal not 14th??

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Federer should be 8th equal not 14th??
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Great !

I will also calculate it regularly,

and write it further in this thread.

I will try to include futures, especially for the players who play one occasionally but rather play in challengers.

We could check our calculations together, which would be great !

EDIT : For my last calculation (including futures, and sometimes earlier than Felipe's even though I make a little bit more mistakes)

see the end of the thread POST 244 PAGE 17.

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If you want to do a hypothetical race thread, you can't include challengers

Other than that, fantastic idea.

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If you want to do a hypothetical race thread, you can't include challengers

Other than that, fantastic idea.
This year we can as all he wants to do is see the end of the year rankings.

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If you want to do a hypothetical race thread, you can't include challengers
I think the opposite : there was no reason other than business not to include challengers (and qualifyings) in the Race actually.

The purpose of this "Race" is to be easy to follow, and to predict the ranking in the end of the year

... and it will be all the more useful for that as the points of 2008 have been doubled in the rankings, and it's too much (a ratio around 1.3-1.4 would have been more fair)

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