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8370, will it ever be surpassed?

Roger Federer holds a record for most ATP points, 8.370 at the end of 2006 by the old system, which would be 16.720 of the new points. Do you think we will see ever someone achieving as many points?

Nadal currently has 14.510, even if he won the USO and Rome and held all his points from the other events (except olympics, which he could replace with a win on a 500 event), he would have 16.300, so he would probably need to reach the semis of the Masters Cup as well!!!

Also, the system now gives less points than it did for any result worse than W, so the record could be unattainable.

What do you think, will we ever see this record broken? by Rafa? IMHO, it is impossible, specially with the new system.

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Re: 8370, will it ever be surpassed?

Nadal already has more points than Pete did in his career. He's got too much to defend now.

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Re: 8370, will it ever be surpassed?

It's the new system so now Rafa holds his record
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Re: 8370, will it ever be surpassed?

Would be interesting to see Federer's points total if we were to convert his results to the new system (ISG -> ATP 500, ranking point substitutions, etc.).

I think it's extremely unlikely that that record will be broken. Federer's 2006 season was almost perfect. Even if somebody achieves a CYGS it will be hard to beat that record.
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Yuki Bhambri will break it in 6 years.

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Roger Federer holds a record for most ATP points, 8.370 at the end of 2006 by the old system, which would be 16.720 of the new points. Do you think we will see ever someone achieving as many points?

Nadal currently has 14.510, even if he won the USO and Rome and held all his points from the other events (except olympics, which he could replace with a win on a 500 event), he would have 16.300, so he would probably need to reach the semis of the Masters Cup as well!!!

Also, the system now gives less points than it did for any result worse than W, so the record could be unattainable.

What do you think, will we ever see this record broken? by Rafa? IMHO, it is impossible, specially with the new system.
It's actually very easy to compare the old record to the current points, by assigning the new system on the old results.
By doing that, Federer lose:
250 for Doha (still 250 in the new system),
120 for Dubai (300 instead of 420),
100 for MC (600 instead of 700),
100 for Rome (600 instead of 700),
200 for RG (1200 instead of 1400),
200 for Halle (250 instead of 450),
25 for Cincy (45 instead of 70).

All the rest are the same - he even had 4 500-events in his rankings...

So the record by the new system is 15745 - still a very high records which is unlikely to be broken by Nadal IMO.

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Re: 8370, will it ever be surpassed?

Fed's 2006 season when converted to the new system is 15,745


AO Win- 2000
RG Final- 1200
Wimbledon Win- 2000
USO Win- 2000

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IW Win- 1000
Miami Win- 1000
MC Final- 600
Rome Final- 600
Hamburg- 0
Canada Win- 1000
Cincy R32- 45
Madrid Win- 1000
Bercy- 0
Shanghai Win- 1500

6745

Doha Win- 250
Dubai Final- 300
Halle Win- 250
Tokyo Win- 500
Basel Win- 500

1800

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Re: 8370, will it ever be surpassed?

No it will not
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Re: 8370, will it ever be surpassed?

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Fed's 2006 season when converted to the new system is 15,745


AO Win- 2000
RG Final- 1200
Wimbledon Win- 2000
USO Win- 2000

7200

IW Win- 1000
Miami Win- 1000
MC Final- 600
Rome Final- 600
Hamburg- 0
Canada Win- 1000
Cincy R32- 45
Madrid Win- 1000
Bercy- 0
Shanghai Win- 1500

6745

Doha Win- 250
Dubai Final- 300
Halle Win- 250
Tokyo Win- 500
Basel Win- 500

1800

Point total of: 15,745
Thanks, certainly that way it seems much more doable.

Maybe Nadal could get him this year then. A possible path.

Current points: 14.510

Reaches Dubai SF: +30

Wins his DC tie with Serbia, 1 match: +40 (not sure how this works!!!)

Gets a Win and a SF in IW + Miami: +210

Wins Rome: +990

Total= 15.780

Highly unlikely in his current form, yet possible.

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