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Rafa vs Roger-Physical, Mental, Natural Talent

Tennis can pretty much be devided into three aspects, physical, mental and natural talent. So i thought it would be interesting to compare the two players according to these three aspects. Here is what i think:

Rafa

Physical-10/10
Mental-10/10
Talent-6/10

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Physical-8/10
Mental-8/10(6/10 against Rafa)
Talent-10/10

I say 6/10 aganst Rafa for Roger because Rafa seems to be a difficult matchup for Roger and he seems mentally fragile when he plays Rafa. What do you guys think? Feel free to make up your own scores. Another thing is the 6/10 for natural ability for Rafa which may raise some eyebrows but i honestly dont believe he has much natural talent. The fact that he is left-handed helps him a lot and his physical and mental is so good that you still have one hell of a player.
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Re: Rafa vs Roger-Physical, Mental, Natural Talent

What is "talent" made up of if not for physical and mental abilities

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What is "talent" made up of if not for physical and mental abilities
I didnt say mental or physical was not talent. I might as well have called it mental talent, physical talent and natural talent.
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Obsessed much?
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Talent-6/10
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by your definition Hussain Bolt could be next atp no.1
Seriously, do you have to create 10 all the same useless topic? Rafa is better player, get over it ffs...
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by your definition Hussain Bolt could be next atp no.1
Seriously, do you have to create 10 all the same useless topic? Rafa is better player, get over it ffs...
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I'm sorry...I don't follow... Is that 1 or -1 cause it's very close and i just cannot make up my mind...

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To me, Rafa's major talent is that he hates to lose. I am boxing fan and have been to a number of fights. Rafa reminds me of the very best boxers I've seen. If he is physically able, Rafa just keeps coming back even after being knocked down. Out of all of the tennis players I've seen, right now, Rafa is the best at playing in the moment.

Roger is very strong mentally, too, but his major talent is his natural gift for tennis. He is just a beautiful player to watch and clearly loves the game. Regardless of what the future holds, I really believe Roger is the GOAT.
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-1 < 0

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I'm sorry...I don't follow... Is that 1 or -1 cause it's very close and i just cannot make up my mind...
-1 of course and I already feel i was to generous
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I'm sorry...I don't follow... Is that 1 or -1 cause it's very close and i just cannot make up my mind...
At least have the integrity to explain yourself, or else you are just another troll. Come to think of it you are probably one.
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Re: Rafa vs Roger-Physical, Mental, Natural Talent

Rafa

Physical-11/10
Mental-10/10
Talent-9/10

Roger

Physical-10/10
Mental-8/10(6/10 against Rafa)
Talent-12/10

Nadal's phsycial and Federer's talent score are just outside the normal range.

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Re: Rafa vs Roger-Physical, Mental, Natural Talent



You DO realize that saying "Rafa's not talented" over and over again isn't going to magically make it true, right?

It'll be alright.
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-1 of course and I already feel i was to generous
Only a :retard: like you can come up with math like that
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Re: Rafa vs Roger-Physical, Mental, Natural Talent

You can't put a number on someone's talent! I'm having a useless day but I wouldn't come up with a thread like this. I rather watch Dallas season 8 dvd.

But I'm still a little bit interested. Why is Rafa physically 10/10, when he's having problems with his knees all the time? Federer on the other hand hasn't had injuries at all really, yet he's only 8/10.

And natural talent 6/10 for Nadal?!! He's won GS on three different surfaces, Olympic Gold and is No.1. The guy is extremely talented, even if his shots are not as smooth looking as you would like.

It's Friday, go out and have a beer or something! I'm sick so I'm stuck with reading threads like this.

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