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Serve and Volley: US Open 2002

A clip I found on YouTube:

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That's interesting to watch. But I can't help but feel that (and don't get me wrong, I'm a big fan of Pete) Nadal would eat Sampras alive. As long as he could get Sampras' serve back he'd have a look at a passing shot, and he could make many more of those than Agassi did. That style worked ten years ago, but given the court speeds and racquet technology, it really isn't feasible anymore. It's a shame that we don't see more variety in styles of play, but that's just the way it is now.
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That's interesting to watch. But I can't help but feel that (and don't get me wrong, I'm a big fan of Pete) Nadal would eat Sampras alive. As long as he could get Sampras' serve back he'd have a look at a passing shot, and he could make many more of those than Agassi did. That style worked ten years ago, but given the court speeds and racquet technology, it really isn't feasible anymore. It's a shame that we don't see more variety in styles of play, but that's just the way it is now.
Even Agassi would have beaten Sampras on a slower hardcourt that day. The US Open surface was fast enough to make Sampras' serve/netrushing work really well.
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I love this. I watched it before, I miss this so much
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That's interesting to watch. But I can't help but feel that (and don't get me wrong, I'm a big fan of Pete) Nadal would eat Sampras alive. As long as he could get Sampras' serve back he'd have a look at a passing shot, and he could make many more of those than Agassi did. That style worked ten years ago, but given the court speeds and racquet technology, it really isn't feasible anymore. It's a shame that we don't see more variety in styles of play, but that's just the way it is now.
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I miss this tennis too.
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Ah beautiful tennis, seems like just a dream now.
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Sampras phenomenal volleyer!!

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Re: Serve and Volley: US Open 2002

Loved Andre and Pete.

I have a vague recollection.. of reading or hearing something:
didn't TPTB slow up the courts because people were tired of the short points or something like that?

I could have sworn I read somewhere that with the racquet technology tennis was just becoming a sport of serves and maybe a few points?

To me, it's just so weird to read all the negative against Rafa's style of play because I seem to recall there was a lot of negative about the points being too short, serves dominating, a lot people being bored with it?

I just think there needs to be a balance because either style of play can become boring.
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To me, it's just so weird to read all the negative against Rafa's style of play because I seem to recall there was a lot of negative about the points being too short, serves dominating, a lot people being bored with it?
Serve and volley definitely was considered as being too quick and unoriginal not too long ago, and in fact the rallies you see in Nadal's matches were what people were looking for, especially in the form of intense 5-setter grand slam finals.

Of course you need a balance at the end of the day. Anything gets boring if its monotonous.

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This thing about raquet technology being an explanation doesn't make sense to me. If the raquets are getting more powerful shouldn't the ATP have slowed the courts so play would continue to play at the same level? The fact that the courts have been disproportionately slowed down compared to the increase in raquet power means that they simply wanted to change how pro tennis is played. Not that I consider today's tennis much worse than a decade ago, its just seems very reckless and uninhibited the way the ATP could radically slow down all surfaces to make a uniform style of play.
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This thing about raquet technology being an explanation doesn't make sense to me. If the raquets are getting more powerful shouldn't the ATP have slowed the courts so play would continue to play at the same level? The fact that the courts have been disproportionately slowed down compared to the increase in raquet power means that they simply wanted to change how pro tennis is played. Not that I consider today's tennis much worse than a decade ago, its just seems very reckless and uninhibited the way the ATP could radically slow down all surfaces to make a uniform style of play.
Well, what I recall is that people were concerned about the popularity of the game. I recall golf becoming extremely popular, and the public being more interested in golf than tennis.

I really wonder if TPTB just took an expedient measure in hopes of creating more interest possibly with longer points?

I have no idea. I just find it interesting.
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Re: Serve and Volley: US Open 2002

Great video of tennis when it was alive and well. Seems like a distant dream now. Thanks for posting.
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Sampras phenomenal volleyer!!

Nice watch
For me Sampras was always a player with amazing 1st and 2nd serve (it's important to underline since Karlovic's 2nd serve for example is pathetic in comparison to Sampras' one), stunning forehand and the best overhead I've ever seen (not after the bounce - it was Agassi's realm).
It's a video from his last professional match, I think he has been improving as a volleyer through the years but personally I appreciate more as the serve-and-volleyers players like Edberg, Becker, Rafter, Stich, Krajicek or even... Siemerink.

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