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If you were Federer's coach ...

There has been a bit of talk about Federer's style of playing against Nadal and some suggestions that he should make changes.

The question is, what changes would you suggest? If you were his coach, what gameplan would you give him?

Wimbledon and todays final were both so close (except the last set) that I don't think we can write off Federer's game and say it isn't the right one to beat Nadal, because he's come pretty close to doing it (not counting Roland Garros).

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Re: If you were Federer's coach ...

Alternate backcourt aggression in the "Monfils in Doha" style, and serve-and-volley to disrupt his rythm. And stay focus to avoid any beakdown in the FH/BH/serve compartment...

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Re: If you were Federer's coach ...

Roger is too proud to listen to anybody. He doesn't change his tactics. He should use a Samprasesque tactic. Focus on your own games and go for broke on the opponents. Unfortunately, Roger creating 20 BP and winning only 5 of them usually means that he loses to Nadal.

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Re: If you were Federer's coach ...

I think he played the right game today, only he had to many DF's, and in the 5th set he had many errors, in the rest of the match he played the right tactic.

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Re: If you were Federer's coach ...

I think Federer needs a coach who can teach him to attack Nadals weak 2nd serves, not by running around with his forehand. It is hard with a one handed backhand but I think he can get alot better doing this, maybe not like Murray or Nalbandian but right now he is horrible in returning these weak 2nd serves. He should also hit more flat forehands, go for the kill alot more than he is doing now. About the volleys, I dont know if that is the right way to beat Nadal but the only way you can volley if you are going to volley against Nadal are short volleys.

Dropshot should also be important against Nadal, specialy on clay I think Fed should drop shot like hell, like Starace did last year against Nadal. But who cares about clay? Nadal is unbeatable there, end of discussion.
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Re: If you were Federer's coach ...

I think today the problem was not his tactic. He was doing some right things, but because his level dropped, he wasn´t able to execute his tactic the whole match. If his serve would have worked better, I´m sure he would have serve&volleyed a bit more. I think he takes Nadal´s shots very well and hits the rising ball, something that is really not that easy. I think that´s the right tactic for him, although he could use the slice just a little more, beacuse Nadal seemed to be having problems with it, when he used it.
But overall, the problem was not tactical, it was more that his level dropped so much. He made some stupid errors (like df´s) at the crucial moments, and he has obviously developed some kind of a mental block when playing against Nadal, because I can´t imagine him getting so nervous against anyone else. He started off playing with confidence, but in the end it looked like he didn´t REALLY believe he could do it.
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Re: If you were Federer's coach ...

He should play like Graf against Nadal. Slice a lot more with the backhand.
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Re: If you were Federer's coach ...

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He should use a Samprasesque tactic. Focus on your own games and go for broke on the opponents.
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Re: If you were Federer's coach ...

I'd tell Rogi that it's not about the winning, it's about the taking part. Maybe he wouldn't blub like a little fairy afterwards if he goes into the match with this line of thinking.

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Re: If you were Federer's coach ...

The slice to Nadal's backhand was effective today, he should use it more. I'm not whether it's a pride thing (my BH doesn't suck FFS ) or something else, but he really should slice it more to Nadal's backhand. To the forehand the slice is not that effective however.

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i think he would've won if he was able to serve like he did throughout the tournament. It was atrocious how many he was missing.
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Re: If you were Federer's coach ...

i totally posted that in the wrong thread, oh well

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Re: If you were Federer's coach ...

I would make him develop a two-handed backhand to deal with Nadal's crappy moonballs.
Seriously, I would make Roger work on his backhand down the line ala Youzhny. Watch how the Russian can open up the court with ease with that one shot. Federer can hit that shot, it's in his arsenal but for some reason he prefers to just keep going crosscourt all the time.
I would stress the need for a high percentage of 1st serves, I mean 37% in the 2nd set and he won it! He needs to serve strong from beginning to end so that he gets plenty of cheap points.
I would hire Gill Rhys, Agassi's former fitness coach to take Roger's body to another level. He can get fitter and stronger, no question. This will also give him more confidence in those nerve jangling final sets to really let it rip. Then he can blubber with joy when he stuffs Nadal.
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Re: If you were Federer's coach ...

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I would make him develop a two-handed backhand to deal with Nadal's crappy moonballs.
Seriously, I would make Roger work on his backhand down the line ala Youzhny. Watch how the Russian can open up the court with ease with that one shot. Federer can hit that shot, it's in his arsenal but for some reason he prefers to just keep going crosscourt all the time.
I would stress the need for a high percentage of 1st serves, I mean 37% in the 2nd set and he won it! He needs to serve strong from beginning to end so that he gets plenty of cheap points.
I would hire Gill Rhys, Agassi's former fitness coach to take Roger's body to another level. He can get fitter and stronger, no question. This will also give him more confidence in those nerve jangling final sets to really let it rip. Then he can blubber with joy when he stuffs Nadal.
I think that are some reasonable suggetsions as well.

maybe Fed should hire us to coach him? we would push him to his well deserved GOAT status ;-)
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Re: If you were Federer's coach ...

I would try to change Rogers Mindset. He plays like the hunted. He must play like the hunter again. I miss the killer instinct. he should see himself as the underdog that tries everything to win. Fed should play as if he has nothing to lose. He plays like the grand master who is scared to lose.
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