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Novak Djokovic -- heart of a champion (?)

Now this is an attempt to have a serious discussion about Djokovic's prospects. Decide for yourself whether this is for you. Besides, I know you are all cool and tough and know plentiful swearwords; not need to prove it here.

When Djokovic burst on the scene a couple of years ago I was impressed. Here was a skinny kid with a "can-do" attitude who seemed not in awe of Federer and Nadal. Who wasn't resigned to playing second fiddle and being an also-ran. Who wore his confidence on his sleeves which made him seem a bit cocky, but so what. Also, while his game had neither Federer's elegance nor Nadal's physical intensity, he could play almost every strike in the book, and his groundstrokes had a precision and aggresiveness that took his opponents constantly out of their comfort zones. His versatility allowed him to play smart, adjust tactics in the middle of a match. When he won the Australian Open last year -- following a lost US Open final that owed more to nerves than the superiority of his opponent -- I reckoned this kid could become really great.

One year later, Djokovic is still one of the most dangerous players on the tour, but clearly his status isn't the same. His cockiness and confidence are still there, but instead of aiming at surpassing the top dogs with consitently outstanding performances -- the only way to do it -- he seems to be content to beat them every now and then and otherwise be the #3 player of the world (this is what seems to matter to him -- he got quite upset when it was suggested there may be a "big 4" now).

Maybe this is in recognition that he isn't far enough yet to serially produce the needed results, but it also seems an attitude thing. Most disturbing is his tendency to throw matches. It's one thing to retire every now and then, another to make a habit of it and call it quits because of discomfort or minor injuries. Compare this to Federer, who played through the 2008 Australian Open with mononucelosis (if you ever had mono yourself and experienced the all-numbing fatigue that comes with it, you'll appreciate the effort), or to Nadal, who's suffering from chronic tendinitis in his knees and for whom every hard court tournament must be an ordeal. It also seems that there is a self-destructive trait in Djokovic to make fuss about himself, act like a diva (not unlike his compatriot, Ms. Jankovic), which detracts him from doing this job.

If he goes on like this, Djokovic will fail to exploit his potential. I guess at some point he will need to take a step back and think through with a sober mind what he wants to achieve in the game. Maybe a little maturing is all he needs. But for now it looks as if his path to greatness would be at least be delayed.

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Yokozuna: Novak Djokovic (Dai-Y), Andy Murray, Roger Federer (Dai-Y), [Rafael Nadal is an inactive Dai-Y]
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Re: Novak Djokovic -- heart of a champion (?)

He was quite hopeful last year when on the verge of surpassing Nadal and fought for it. Not likely he's now happy with a N.3. Must be some kind of mental slump, he needs to get his shit together and feet on the ground and then we'll see.

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Re: Novak Djokovic -- heart of a champion (?)

You never know what future can bring,things and circumstances are changeable.Luck also turns from one player to an another.
Nole reached the top so quickly.He was chosen as the player who has most improved two times, for the year 2006. and 2007. and it should tell something and gives hope!

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Re: Novak Djokovic -- heart of a champion (?)

I used to really like the kid when he came on the scene for the reasons you said really he seemed amibitous, confident and presented a genuine challenge to the top 2.

I don't know whats happened but IMO mentaly he's fallen apart. He cant seem to deal with pressure dosen't look like he's enjoying his game right now.

His attitude is growing ever increasingly pathetic crowds are turning againgst him and unless he changes soon he's on track to becoming one of the most hated players of all time.

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^c'mon,that's far too harsh!

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Re: Novak Djokovic -- heart of a champion (?)

Harsh but true sadly.

"If only I had an enemy bigger than my apathy, I could have won."
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Re: Novak Djokovic -- heart of a champion (?)

I think he can still do very well. I hope so anyway, because I think he has the talent for it. I enjoy watching him play, I think he just needs to become a bit stronger mentally.

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Re: Novak Djokovic -- heart of a champion (?)

I think he's just going through a bit of a slump, needs to get it together in his head. Easier said than done.

He always wanted to fight for it, that's why I like the kid. He just wouldn't back down.

He's smart, and even if I'm disappointed (truly) with the way he handled a few situations, I think he'll deal with it. Only takes time. I can't imagine what it must be like at 21, with so much pressure and expectations. (Now that speaks volumes for Nadal).

Hell, 2008 was his best year so far, a year many players could only wish for, and he's getting trashed because he didn't do even more.

And by the way, 'one of the most hated players ever'? Please. That's utter nonsense. What is said on MTF doesn't relate to real life, which may come as shock to some.

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Re: Novak Djokovic -- heart of a champion (?)

who knows, he could go onto win the other 3 grand slams yet and equal federers best year ever.
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Re: Novak Djokovic -- heart of a champion (?)

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...Most disturbing is his tendency to throw matches. It's one thing to retire every now and then, another to make a habit of it and call it quits because of discomfort or minor injuries....
To me looks like an immunity problem that he has, wouldn't call those "a minor injury".

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...Compare this to Federer, who played through the 2008 Australian Open with mononucelosis (if you ever had mono yourself and experienced the all-numbing fatigue that comes with it, you'll appreciate the effort)...
People with mono cant move for years, while people who ate bad chicken simply shit a river and move on.

Just a thought.

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Nole's problem is that he is a brat with no character.
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Re: Novak Djokovic -- heart of a champion (?)

He is as technically sound as anybody out there. But mentally he has begun to collapse as he closed in on the top two. He also appears to have let success go to his head. He does not appear to be willing to pay the price of the off court work to get himself physically fit enough to compete consistently at the highest level.
My coach used to talk about how do you play under the "threat of victory". He was talking about in matches, but I see that with careers too. Some guys work towards a goal so long, that when they finally get close, they just can't deal with the mental aspects of success. You see it in matches all the time. Guys play great with no pressure, then when they put themselves in a position to win the match, then just can't close it out under the "threat of victory".

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he is great player,but i don't know what i can say about his head.we will see what will be.but if he want to somebody love him he must stop with faking.
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He will be number 1, in 2011 when federer retires and before the new dominant player comes.
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Re: Novak Djokovic -- heart of a champion (?)

debilitating form of it... ancic's would more resemble a proper bout of it... i know... running a minute or two = a couple of 7-6'ers... i know it from experience...

but... this thread is not about that old chestnut...

what we have here is a player unable to fall on his sword when things dont go his way... i wish andy would have just called a spade a spade... and i am sure he did off camera... cos... it just seems to me that everyone else out there in the spotlight can happily go down, walk off the court and say... 'ok - today - i wasnt good enough'...

it robs people of there ticket value...

when you are a professional tennis player, it means you are not a junior... not saying this is how novak carries himself every match... though... for 8 weeks of the year, tennis holds the worlds attention... and... novak is building a special history inside those 8 weeks alone...

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