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Mens' tennis is in its best shape in years if not decades

It has been a long time that a grand tournament made me await almost any match from the 4th round with excitement.

With the great champions Federer (who, fortunately, has not lost it)and Nadal, the dangerous Djokovic, the "old" battle horse Roddick, and aspiring and capable players like Murray, Tsonga, Simon, del Potro (yes, he got a lesson today), mens' tennis is in the best shape in years, if not decades. The last time the field was so full of exciting and competitive characters was in the late 80s/ early 90s (old Lendl, Becker, Edberg, young Agassi, Courier, young Sampras, Stich, Ivanisevic, young Chang).

Enjoy as long as it lasts (unfortunately ladies' tennis is not in good shape).

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Yokozuna: Roger Federer (Dai-Y), Novak Djokovic (Dai-Y), Andy Murray [Rafael Nadal is an inactive Dai-Yokozuna]
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Re: Mens' tennis is in its best shape in years if not decades

The top 4 are good but after that there is a serious lack of talent. When a guy like Del Potro is top 5 material that tells something about the quality of the field. I cannot imagine a player so one dimensional being so highly ranked in the 80's or 90's.

Football is one of the few areas of life where even if you're untutored, you can go to a ground and see George Best beat three men, and you can realise, 'I have seen genius.'
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The top 4 are good but after that there is a serious lack of talent. When a guy like Del Potro is top 5 material that tells something about the quality of the field. I cannot imagine a player so one dimensional being so highly ranked in the 80's or 90's.
Roddick and Ivanisevic have done it, when it comes to one dimensional players. Ferrero made #1, it just depends on the dimension.

This is far from a golden age in tennis, but every era is a clown era.

On Nadal bumping him on the changeover, Rosol said: "It's ok, he wanted to take my concentration; I knew he would try something".


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I definitely would have preferred Gaba winning as he needs the points much more, but Jan would have beaten him anyway. I expect Hajek to destroy Machado, like 6-1 6-2.
Machado wins 6-2 6-1
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Imo it's the best period since the beginning of the 80s,
better than the beginning of the 90s which was also great.

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Re: Mens' tennis is in its best shape in years if not decades

Bullshit.

Tennis is going down the drain, and fast.

2 QFs = 1 retirement and 1 obliteration.

The other 2 QFs are full of mug players and the only world-class player is injured.

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It has been a long time that a grand tournament made me await almost any match from the 4th round with excitement.

With the great champions Federer (who, fortunately, has not lost it)and Nadal, the dangerous Djokovic, the "old" battle horse Roddick, and aspiring and capable players like Murray, Tsonga, Simon, del Potro (yes, he got a lesson today), mens' tennis is in the best shape in years, if not decades. The last time the field was so full of exciting and competitive characters was in the late 80s/ early 90s (old Lendl, Becker, Edberg, young Agassi, Courier, young Sampras, Stich, Ivanisevic, young Chang).

Enjoy as long as it lasts (unfortunately ladies' tennis is not in good shape).
Yup I agree 100 % with you. don't listen the the sour grapes. There will always be people that think yesterday was better then today. Usually they are over 60 years old and prepare for death.

...But in MTF this rule seems not to hold....
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Re: Mens' tennis is in its best shape in years if not decades

And the people who think today is always the best are usually teenagers that never had the chance to see the greats of yesterday except on youtube highlights. See I can do sweeping generalizations, too.

Football is one of the few areas of life where even if you're untutored, you can go to a ground and see George Best beat three men, and you can realise, 'I have seen genius.'
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The top 4 are good but after that there is a serious lack of talent. When a guy like Del Potro is top 5 material that tells something about the quality of the field. I cannot imagine a player so one dimensional being so highly ranked in the 80's or 90's.
There are always del Potros who do nothing brilliantly but who are competent, consistent and competitive and go further than one would expect. The early 90s also had Muster or Courier, for example.

And for my part I do not see a "serious lack of potential" below the top 4. Certainly Tsonga and Monfils are very talented, Gulbis has potential, Simon as well. They should keep tennis interesting in the coming years.

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Yokozuna: Roger Federer (Dai-Y), Novak Djokovic (Dai-Y), Andy Murray [Rafael Nadal is an inactive Dai-Yokozuna]
Ozeki: Stan Wawrinka (kadoban)
Sekiwake: Tomas Berdych (ex-Ozeki), Milos Raonic
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Del Potro, Ferrer. Sekiwake: Tsonga, Baghdatis, Haas, Raonic, Nishikori, Gasquet. Komusubi: Robredo, Ginepri, Gasquet, Verdasco, Melzer, Monfils, Youzhny, Janowicz, Dimitrov, Gulbis, Kyrgios, Thiem.
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And the people who think today is always the best are usually teenagers that never had the chance to see the greats of yesterday except on youtube highlights. See I can do sweeping generalizations, too.
I'm 38 and have watched tennis since the beginning of the 80's.

Tennis is played with very different styles according to the generations, which people might like or not.

But I can see when you have 4 very greats and 10 very good.
It's not so often.

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And the people who think today is always the best are usually teenagers that never had the chance to see the greats of yesterday except on youtube highlights. See I can do sweeping generalizations, too.
Yes, and most can't tell their forehand from their forehead.

On Nadal bumping him on the changeover, Rosol said: "It's ok, he wanted to take my concentration; I knew he would try something".


Wilander on Dimitrov - "He has mind set on imitating Federer and yes it looks good. But he has no idea what to do on the court".

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I definitely would have preferred Gaba winning as he needs the points much more, but Jan would have beaten him anyway. I expect Hajek to destroy Machado, like 6-1 6-2.
Machado wins 6-2 6-1
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Bullshit.

Tennis is going down the drain, and fast.

2 QFs = 1 retirement and 1 obliteration.

The other 2 QFs are full of mug players and the only world-class player is injured.

Awesome stuff.
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I'm 38 and have watched tennis since the beginning of the 80's.

Tennis is played with very different styles according to the generations, which people might like or not.

But I can see when you have 4 very greats and 10 very good.
It's not so often.
4 very greats? Nah.

4 greats would be like putting McEnroe, Sampras, Connors and Lendl in the same era. We have nothing like that.

And if you think that every player playing the exact same game on all tournaments the year round is good...
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I have not watched tennis for very long, but tennis can't be in great shape. It's just pathetic seeing tennis ruled by mediocre players and a number one ranked player that has not made a final in nearly 6 months. I hear about the slowing down of the courts so that there is less variety and stupid moonballers have a chance to win slams other than Roland Garros.
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I have not watched tennis for very long,
That's understood.

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Current sanyaku ranked players:
Yokozuna: Roger Federer (Dai-Y), Novak Djokovic (Dai-Y), Andy Murray [Rafael Nadal is an inactive Dai-Yokozuna]
Ozeki: Stan Wawrinka (kadoban)
Sekiwake: Tomas Berdych (ex-Ozeki), Milos Raonic
Komusubi: none

Active ex-sanyaku-ranked players
Ozeki:
Del Potro, Ferrer. Sekiwake: Tsonga, Baghdatis, Haas, Raonic, Nishikori, Gasquet. Komusubi: Robredo, Ginepri, Gasquet, Verdasco, Melzer, Monfils, Youzhny, Janowicz, Dimitrov, Gulbis, Kyrgios, Thiem.
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