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Thumbs up French tennis booming

If you check the draw of the high caliber challenger draw in Noumea, you will see that no less than 14 of 32 players are from France.
Come on, that is just ridiculous.

This is not even looking at ATP level where everything is clicking as well, but it gives an idea of the incredible depth that subsequently also produces the many top players in the top 20.

Amazing.

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Nouvelle Calédonie is a former French colony. It may be one of the explanations to this situation.
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Three of the 14 french players are wildcards, 1 is qualified.
Hence, there are still 10 regular players in a challenger where the last direct acceptance ranking is 218.

Looking at Sao Paolo, there are actually 10 brazilians in it, which relativizes the whole thing a bit.
Of those, only 6 are in regularly, with the last direct acceptance being Dutra Silva (Bra) at 243. And those 6 include all the best brazilian players except Bellucci which puts it into perspective.

I still think that 14/32 is very impressive, especially since the best ranked french player who bothered playing this is Mannarino at No.134, and there are 14 french players with a better ranking.
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Yes. French tennis is amazing. They have so much depth. Hence the dact that they host:
-Roland Garros
-Paris masters
-Metz ATP
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-any more?

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How does *your* Tennis Federation help Youngsters?

i think 'booa' has explained the way the french tennis federation recruits youngsters quite well. apparently it's starting to pay off big time at the moment.
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Yes. French tennis is amazing. They have so much depth. Hence the dact that they host:
-Roland Garros
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-Marseille ATP
-any more?
You've forgotten Lyon
It's right that the federation has been doing a big work these last years and it finally pays.
There's also a change in our player's way to see competition and victory. During years and years, many of them looked like they were afraid of becoming a sort of star, someone too much exposed to medias, pressure,...Gasquet is a good example. In Roland Garros, he suddenly plays bad because he wants to do it well for everyone but him.
With the new good players that improved their game and who have begun to win, there's a new dynamic : they want to win, they are competitive, they believe that they can win. It was not always the case before and well, that's interesting.
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France sucks at wars.

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Thanks God we suck at war
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What is your point in bringing this up? You hate France so if you see someone complimenting this country you feel it's your duty to knock it down? Your comment has NOTHING to do with this post, it just create divisiveness.
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It's not a defect to me but I ignored Canadians were that good at war
No one wants to start wars with Canada. Canada .

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Nouvelle Calédonie is a former French colony. It may be one of the explanations to this situation.
it's still a French territory actually

(for the statisticians, it's a part of the "French Republic" but not of the "Whole France" actually )

As for the Canadians, they helped the French a lot in the two world wars

In the north of France, near Le Touquet, there's a very large Canadian cemetery for instance.

Other countries : don't worry too much about French tennis : in generations 91 to 94, France is quite weak actually

And Canada seems to have two young good players in generation 94 : Edward Nguyen and the other one is Peliwo (both finalist and semi-finalist in Orange Bowl, I think)

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More impressive I think is the fact that there are 3 French players (2 already + the winner of Tsonga-Gasquet) in the semis of the ATP tournaments this week. French players used to be average players between 40 and 100 plus one or two having some results (Pioline, Grosjean, Escude). Today there are 5 French players that can win tournaments (Tsonga, Simon, Monfils, Gasquet and Mathieu).

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More impressive I think is the fact that there are 3 French players (2 already + the winner of Tsonga-Gasquet) in the semis of the ATP tournaments this week. French players used to be average players between 40 and 100 plus one or two having some results (Pioline, Grosjean, Escude). Today there are 5 French players that can win tournaments (Tsonga, Simon, Monfils, Gasquet and Mathieu).
Actually even Llodra and Santoro have won tournaments last year, and Benneteau was a finalist twice. But if you're talking about bigger events, then yeah only those five can go far.
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