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Switching nationalities?

Can someone represent one country, but play team competitions for another?

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Re: Switching nationalities?

If they have played for another country, then there is a 3 year waiting period to play teams events for their new one.

On Nadal bumping him on the changeover, Rosol said: "It's ok, he wanted to take my concentration; I knew he would try something".


Wilander on Dimitrov - "He has mind set on imitating Federer and yes it looks good. But he has no idea what to do on the court".

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I definitely would have preferred Gaba winning as he needs the points much more, but Jan would have beaten him anyway. I expect Hajek to destroy Machado, like 6-1 6-2.
Machado wins 6-2 6-1
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Re: Switching nationalities?

!!!!Wow! I heard that Dimitris Kleftakos(used to play for Germany but now plays for Greece)signed a 5-year contract to play on the Greece Davis Cup team. Is this allowed since he never played on the German Davis Cup Team? Also, could someone play for let's say the USA but play Davis Cup for another country?

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Re: Switching nationalities?

Roman Borvanov is an interesting case. Born in Moldova, lives/plays mostly in USA.

Played Davis Cup for Moldova in 2006 and 2008.
http://www.daviscup.com/teams/player...ayer=100059022

His ITF profile says he plays for his native country.
http://www.itftennis.com/mens/player...ayer=100059022

While according to his ATP profile, he plays for USA.
http://www.atpworldtour.com/3/en/pla...earch=borvanov

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Re: Switching nationalities?

Vasallo Arguello started out playing for Argentina, then played for Italy and now represents Argentina.

There was the Tomas Behrend case, when they were thinking of having him represent his native Brazil, but it didn't eventuate as he was selected for the German DC team.

On Nadal bumping him on the changeover, Rosol said: "It's ok, he wanted to take my concentration; I knew he would try something".


Wilander on Dimitrov - "He has mind set on imitating Federer and yes it looks good. But he has no idea what to do on the court".

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I definitely would have preferred Gaba winning as he needs the points much more, but Jan would have beaten him anyway. I expect Hajek to destroy Machado, like 6-1 6-2.
Machado wins 6-2 6-1
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Vlademyros Mavropoulos-Stoliarenko is Greek on his ITF profile and American on his ATP profile
ATP: http://www.atpworldtour.com/3/en/pla...os-Stoliarenko
ITF: http://www.itftennis.com/mens/player...ayer=100003879

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Vasallo Arguello started out playing for Argentina, then played for Italy and now represents Argentina.

There was the Tomas Behrend case, when they were thinking of having him represent his native Brazil, but it didn't eventuate as he was selected for the German DC team.
and when players were on strike against federation (2004), Josh Goffi who used to play for USA played for Brazil. His father, Carlos Goffi, played professional tennis as American.

http://www.daviscup.com/teams/player...layer=10012095

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Re: Switching nationalities?

Andrew Thomas is also intersting. He plays for Australia now, but might play DC for Cyrpus, as he has represented them.

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Vlademyros Mavropoulos-Stoliarenko is Greek on his ITF profile and American on his ATP profile
ATP: http://www.atpworldtour.com/3/en/pla...os-Stoliarenko
ITF: http://www.itftennis.com/mens/player...ayer=100003879

and was born in Russia according to his ITF profile (of course it's just his birth place)

I guess if a player plays regularly in a certain country he gets its nationality according to ATP
next will be Dustin Brown turned into German

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and was born in Russia according to his ITF profile (of course it's just his birth place)

I guess if a player plays regularly in a certain country he gets its nationality according to ATP
next will be Dustin Brown turned into German
So will Evgeny Korolev.

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As long as they haven't represented another country in Davis Cup, then the 3yr rule is exempted.

http://www.daviscup.com/shared/media...8_original.PDF

34. ELIGIBILITY OF PLAYERS

Any tennis player who is in good standing with his National Association in accordance with Appendix D shall be qualified to represent that country if he:

(a) Is a national of that country, has a current valid passport of that country, has lived in that country for 24 consecutive months at some time and has not represented any other country during the period of 36 months immediately preceding the event.

If a player is qualified under this sub section to represent more than one country and the National Association of one of those countries wishes to nominate him to represent it, that Association shall submit an application to the ITF, with a copy to any other National Association concerned. Such application must be received by the ITF at least six months prior to the event for which the player wishes to be nominated.

The Davis Cup Committee will give a ruling having taken into account all relevant matters.

(b) (i) A player who has represented, or has been eligible to represent a country and such a country is divided into two or more countries, shall immediately be eligible to represent any one of those countries.

(ii) A player who has represented, or has been eligible to represent a country and such country is absorbed in whole or in part by another country, shall immediately be eligible to represent such other country.

(c) A player shall be deemed to have represented a country if he shall have been nominated, and shall have accepted, the nomination to play in the Olympic Games Tennis Event or in any International Team Competition recognised by the ITF and listed in Bye-Law 2.1(a).

(d) A National Association may appeal to the Board of Directors to nominate a player who is not eligible under the above Rules and the Board of Directors may agree the application if the full circumstances warrant an exception being made. Such application must be received by the ITF at least six months
prior to the event for which the player wishes to be nominated.

(e) The Davis Cup Committee has the right to ask a National Association to produce evidence to show how a player is qualified to represent that country.

Note: A player who represented a country under the Rules in force in 1994 or prior thereto, shall continue to be eligible to represent that country even if he is no longer qualified to do so under the amended terms of this Regulation.

On Nadal bumping him on the changeover, Rosol said: "It's ok, he wanted to take my concentration; I knew he would try something".


Wilander on Dimitrov - "He has mind set on imitating Federer and yes it looks good. But he has no idea what to do on the court".

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I definitely would have preferred Gaba winning as he needs the points much more, but Jan would have beaten him anyway. I expect Hajek to destroy Machado, like 6-1 6-2.
Machado wins 6-2 6-1
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Here Mavropoulos-Stoliarenko is American:
http://www.tenniscorner.net/index.ph...layerid=MAV013
Here he is Greek:
http://www.universaltennis.com/playe...le.aspx?id=472
Greek here:
http://www.tennisinsight.com/playerid7716.htm
Greek here:
http://www.stevegtennis.com/forum/vi...t=6579&p=66159
American here:
http://www.coretennis.net/majic/page...470/index.html
Greek here:
http://dps.usta.com/usta_master/usta...oc_734_371.pdf
Greek here:
http://www.wikio.es/deportes/tenis/t...os_stoliarenko
Greek here:
http://thetennisthatwedontsee.wordpr...f9-vero-beach/
-never mind, I guess he is Greek maybe, but this whole American thing started a few months ago, so maybe he's stuck between the two.

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Re: Switching nationalities?

but could someone play for one country and just play davis cup for another?

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but could someone play for one country and just play davis cup for another?
well for starters, players play for themselves when its not davis cup...
Nadal is playing for Nadal on the ATP, not spain, he plays for Spain in Davis Cup

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but could someone play for one country and just play davis cup for another?
No, if that was the case then Golubev would be Russian on tour and play for Kazakhstan in DC.

On Nadal bumping him on the changeover, Rosol said: "It's ok, he wanted to take my concentration; I knew he would try something".


Wilander on Dimitrov - "He has mind set on imitating Federer and yes it looks good. But he has no idea what to do on the court".

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I definitely would have preferred Gaba winning as he needs the points much more, but Jan would have beaten him anyway. I expect Hajek to destroy Machado, like 6-1 6-2.
Machado wins 6-2 6-1
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