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Federer Too Focused On Winning French?

I don't have an opinion either way on the subject but I thought it might be able to spark interesting conversation. I was reading an article about Federer earlier today and it mentioned that Roger had allowed others such as Nadal, Djokovic, Murray, etc. to catch up to him on other surfaces because Roger has really made it a focus to win Roland Garros. Not sure if I'm wording it the right way so it makes sense to all, but does anyone think this could be a factor in Federer "coming back to earth" a little bit on hardcourt and grass?
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Re: Federer Too Focused On Winning French?

It wouldn't surprise me if he was a little "obsessed" with it. I remeber Ivan Lendl in the 80's was obsessed with winning Wimbledon and even though he got to the final, he never quite managed it. I wasn't a big Lendl fan but really felt quite sorry for him where Wimbly was concerned. I would love to see Fed win R.G. I have a quite a fondness for him even though I usually support underdogs. I want him to get his Wimbly crown back next year. I like Rafa too but Fed looked broken after his Wimbledon loss this year and it was sad to see imo.
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Re: Federer Too Focused On Winning French?

In fact Lendl got to 2 consecutive Wimbledon finals, losing to Becker and Cash(1986-1987).
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I think he cares only about Grand Slams in general, not about any of them particulary.

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In fact Lendl got to 2 consecutive Wimbledon finals, losing to Becker and Cash(1986-1987).
I thought he did, I remember the Cash one vividly, my first tennis crush! Cash not Lendl!
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I think he cares only about Grand Slams in general, not about any of them particulary.

I would be the same way, but if Roger never wins RG he may go down as the greatest ever, but those who argue against him will point at his inability to win that Grand Slam. You have to think it is eating away at him somehow.
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I would be the same way, but if Roger never wins RG he may go down as the greatest ever, but those who argue against him will point at his inability to win that Grand Slam. You have to think it is eating away at him somehow.
It must do, when he's achieved everything else, RG will be "the one that got away"
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Re: Federer Too Focused On Winning French?

No, I actually think he doesn't care enough about the French.

Actually, Fed is too focused about his image, his popularity around the world, people's awareness of him, etc. and that's why we are seeing him swimming across oceans to play pointless exhibitions, at the cost of his health.

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I think there is some truth to that. But who can blame the guy, he knows that no matter if he breaks Pete´s record, in order to go down in history as the unquestionable GOAT, he needs to win the RG. I´m sure he´d be willing to trade a couple of Wimbledon titles for one french, if he had the chance.
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It must do, when he's achieved everything else, RG will be "the one that got away"
Well, as for some of the other players regularly mentioned in the GOAT-discussion, Borg never got the USO, Lendl never got Wimbly, Sampras never got RG (not even ever managed to make the final, whereas Fed made three + a semi-final so far )... so it won't matter all too much imho if Feddie never makes it.

I guess he WAS indeed obsessed about it the past few years, getting so very close, but in the end, succumbing against the guy who might well be the Clay Court GOAT - even Federer might well have acknowledged that it's time to face Reality by now. In all, not *that* much of a disgrace I think. If he lost to all kinds of 'clowns' in all those attempts of his, that would've been a rather different matter. I have the suspicion he's already put it behind himself.

All that matters now to Roger is breaking Sampras' record of 14 slams I think, whichever those will be.

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Well, as for some of the other players regularly mentioned in the GOAT-discussion, Borg never got the USO, Lendl never got Wimbly, Sampras never got RG (not even ever managed to make the final, whereas Fed made three + a semi-final so far )... so it won't matter all too much imho if Feddie never makes it.

I guess he WAS indeed obsessed about it the past few years, getting so very close, but in the end, succumbing against the guy who might well be the Clay Court GOAT - even Federer might well have acknowledged that it's time to face reality by now. In all, not *that* much of a disgrace I think. If he lost to all kinds of 'clowns' in all those attempts of his, that would've been a rather different matter. I have the suspicion he's already put it behind himself.

All that matters now to Roger is breaking Sampras' record of 14 slams I think, whichever those will be.
If all was perfect in Roger's world he would get Wimbledon back this year, and beat Nadal at RG next year. Although I think the only way for Federer to win RG is if someone were to upset Rafa earlier in the tournament. I just want to see someone push Nadal on clay!
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Oh I would love him to win RG I think it'd mean so much to him.

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Who would be a good propsepct to beat Nadal on clay early on in R.G?
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Well, as for some of the other players regularly mentioned in the GOAT-discussion, Borg never got the USO, Lendl never got Wimbly, Sampras never got RG (not even ever managed to make the final, whereas Fed made three + a semi-final so far )... so it won't matter all too much imho if Feddie never makes it.

I guess he WAS indeed obsessed about it the past few years, getting so very close, but in the end, succumbing against the guy who might well be the Clay Court GOAT - even Federer might well have acknowledged that it's time to face Reality by now. In all, not *that* much of a disgrace I think. If he lost to all kinds of 'clowns' in all those attempts of his, that would've been a rather different matter. I have the suspicion he's already put it behind himself.

All that matters now to Roger is breaking Sampras' record of 14 slams I think, whichever those will be.
The thing with Borg, Lendl and Sampras is that which of them is the greatest will always be a matter of opinion. Fed knows that if he wants to pass all of them without a question, he needs the RG. He already is in the same league than all the above mentioned players.
But like you said, he´s been kind of unfortunate to have Nadal in the same era as himself. Even if he never wins RG, his career is not a disgrace by any means, but I´m sure it´s a bit of an obsession for him.
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If all was perfect in Roger's world he would get Wimbledon back this year, and beat Nadal at RG next year. Although I think the only way for Federer to win RG is if someone were to upset Rafa earlier in the tournament. I just want to see someone push Nadal on clay!
The World isn't Perfect, alas - not even Roger's, as wonderful as it already is to him! I hope he will indeed manage to reclaim Wimbledon (the way some posters seem to have written him off already really surprises me, do they not remember how close the 2008-final was?) - but to win RG? Nope, too much of a tall order, if Rafa is around in good (not even best!) form. No Chance in Hell.

And if anyone would !miraculously! manage to upset Rafa before the RG-final, ending up with Roger winning it, I guess we'd see plenty of posts claiming that that title would be 'tainted'.

So funny to see nobody seems to remember Agassi's run to the RG title in that regard.

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