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View Poll Results: Who will do the best on clay in 2009
Del Potro 21 35.00%
Murray 17 28.33%
Simon 22 36.67%
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post #1 of 33 (permalink) Old 12-07-2008, 01:29 AM Thread Starter
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Del Potro, Murray, and Simon on clay

Who will do the best come clay court season? None of them did anything until the hardcourt season this year except for Murray who won 2 titles early in the year and got to the QF of WB. Who will be the best? I think it's between Murray and Del Potro.
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Re: Del Potro, Murray, and Simon on clay

this thread should be titled... 'If I sandwich the word Murray between the words Simon and del Potro, will anyone notice that I am a Murray fan?'

seriously tho...

I vote Del Potro... Murray may still be 2 or 3 years away from title winning form on clay anywhere other than Casablanca... I'll be happy to be proven otherwise tho...

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Re: Del Potro, Murray, and Simon on clay

andy murray will win roland garros
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Re: Del Potro, Murray, and Simon on clay

Well Murray has lost to Simon on clay before and Simon has improved since then. However, given it's the only surface where he isn't dominant I hope he will work on it next year. Maybe he can get Corretja to help him and they should have some better results than this year, hopefully Roland Garros QF or SF and a Masters Final
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Re: Del Potro, Murray, and Simon on clay

this will be the year Andy does something on clay

French QF's at least

Simon will be a nobody again next year
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Re: Del Potro, Murray, and Simon on clay

Too early to say right now.

Judging on what I've seen from these players so far (not as much judging on their HC results), I think Muzza is by far the most talented player of these three. He's sort-of a chameleon - adapts his playing style very well to that of his opponents. Not sure if he manages to do this as well on clay court as he well as does on HC, though. I expect him to be a lot more of a force on the clay than he's been showing so far.

Simon is a very tough grinder-type of player, and yes, I can well see him do well on clay as it looks like the surface will suit his game.

As for DelPotro - have to say that his main strength lies within his serve, and usually that doesn't mean all too much against the REAL great clay court players (I know he's won a lot of tournaments on the surface, but face it - those weren't against the really good clay court-players around - Rafa, Fed, Davidenko, to name just a few) - and it's a know fact that a good serve tends to get neutralized on the surface.

I give the odds to Muzza right now, but for now we'll just have to wait and see what will happen!

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Re: Del Potro, Murray, and Simon on clay

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Well Murray has lost to Simon on clay before and Simon has improved since then. However, given it's the only surface where he isn't dominant I hope he will work on it next year. Maybe he can get Corretja to help him and they should have some better results than this year, hopefully Roland Garros QF or SF and a Masters Final
Murray has beaten Simon on clay since then anyway - Hamburg this year.
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Murray has beaten Simon on clay since then anyway - Hamburg this year.
Simon has improved a LOT since then, though.

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Too early to say right now.

Judging on what I've seen from these players so far (not as much judging on their HC results), I think Muzza is by far the most talented player of these three. He's sort-of a chameleon - adapts his playing style very well to that of his opponents. Not sure if he manages to do this as well on clay court as he well as does on HC, though. I expect him to be a lot more of a force on the clay than he's been showing so far.

Simon is a very tough grinder-type of player, and yes, I can well see him do well on clay as it looks like the surface will suit his game.

As for DelPotro - have to say that his main strength lies within his serve, and usually that doesn't mean all too much against the REAL great clay court players (I know he's won a lot of tournaments on the surface, but face it - those weren't against the really good clay court-players around - Rafa, Fed, Davidenko, to name just a few) - and it's a know fact that a good serve tends to get neutralized on the surface.

I give the odds to Muzza right now, but for now we'll just have to wait and see what will happen!
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Simon has improved a LOT since then, though.
One could argue that Murray has also improved a LOT.
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Del Potro's main strength is his serve!?
Yes, imho, it is, or rather, it should be. But of course, my opinion is futile compared to yours.

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this thread isnt right...

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Simon.

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simon grinding style is suited to clay
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From what I saw of Del Potro live on hard court, yes, serve is his strength although not very reliable.
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From what I saw of Del Potro live on hard court, yes, serve is his strength although not very reliable.
Exactly. Things are expected to be quite different on clay, though.

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