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Hear ye, hear ye Tennis folks!

After carrying out a rigourous study and perousal of the ensuing financial, ethical and technologic benefits, I hearby present to you my suggestion: Let's get rid of all Linesmen/women and leave that demanding duty to a more efficient and reliable technology.

1. Hawkeye's margin of error is estimated to be around 3mm which is far more accurate than the human eye. The use of Hawk-eye would only lead to new improved forms of technology that would benefit not only tennis but other sports and the number of players/specators affected by doubt/dubious decisions will be reduced.

2. In the longterm it will be more affordable to to run Hawk-eye instead of employing Linesmen/women who lack reliability and aren't part for what is envisioned for Tennis in the rest of the 21st century. Forget their historical value, this is what the future holds in store for tennis. Bye Bye.

3. Hawk-eye could be further customized to calculate the time between points, making it easier for the Umpire to penalise them.

4. Whining will be gone, that's a given because the players aren't savy enough to found logical arguments on why Hawk-eye is wrong (See Federer's failed attempts during Wimbledon final 2007, 4th set). In the Hawk-eye era whinging would be extremely frowned upon and considered a waste of time that will result in fines.


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Why am I not surprised from where this preposterous idea comes from?
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adam, i don't think u need a special acc campaign, with that signature of yours.

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There's been rumors they've already made the computer needed to implement this, but some twat asked it what is the meaning of life and it's still pondering. Needless to say, knowledgeable people already know what the answer would be from a similar incident in the future ...
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There's been rumors they've already made the computer needed to implement this, but some twat asked it what is the meaning of life and it's still pondering. Needless to say, knowledgeable people already know what the answer would be from a similar incident in the future ...
There is no such thing as a sentient machine. All beings, follow a certain program and Hawk-eye is definitely controlled by humans, hence that Science fiction bla bla really doesn't enter the eqaution of getting rid of linesmen/women.

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hawkeye would have to improve significantly from now. It would at least have to give nearly instantaneous line calls for this to be possible. I'd imagine it would suck for the linesmen and lineswomen who will be laid off if implemented
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The usage of linesman is still ongoing is all just because of the tradition of tennis nothing more.

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Re: More power to Hawk-eye

It all sounds good in theory, but as federernadalfan pointed out, is this actually feasible? I mean, it takes about 10-15 seconds from the time the player challenges to the time the call is displayed. Obviously that's far too long to be used as a replacement for linesmen. How fast would Hawkeye actually be able to make calls?
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It all sounds good in theory, but as federernadalfan pointed out, is this actually feasible? I mean, it takes about 10-15 seconds from the time the player challenges to the time the call is displayed. Obviously that's far too long to be used as a replacement for linesmen. How fast would Hawkeye actually be able to make calls?
that's one problem

another one would be implementing it on all courts. they might need to develop a "mole-eye" technology for the smaller courts.

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Simple, if the technology's there then use it.

With the money they're playing for it's ridiculous one person's poor judgement can ultimately cost a player thousands of bucks and serious affect his career prospects. This is not to blame the linespeople for mistakes, anyone in their position would make mistakes, the game is simply too fast and too long to make the correct call every time. Let the computers do it.

This of course, would only be practical for the show courts at the moment. Linespeople would still have to be employed on outside courts.
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Exactly what I think. As soon as the computing speed would be fast enough to call the shots real-time, I would spend more than only one thought about getting rid of all human line judges and would like this idea that Hawk Eye calls all shots.

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Bullshit.

Why don't you get rid of all human players and put robots there?
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Exactly what I think. As soon as the computing speed would be fast enough to call the shots real-time, I would spend more than only one thought about getting rid of all human line judges and would like this idea that Hawk Eye calls all shots.
That's what I am talking about. Linesmen/women have been great but at some points, there is no room for the slightest error.

It, post number #13, hasn't understood anything at all. The ball folks, and the Umpire would still remain but Hawkeye will end all disputes regarding line calls. It can be even improved to have the capability of counting the time players take between points and signal it to the Umpire to penalise them.

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It all sounds good in theory, but as federernadalfan pointed out, is this actually feasible? I mean, it takes about 10-15 seconds from the time the player challenges to the time the call is displayed. Obviously that's far too long to be used as a replacement for linesmen. How fast would Hawkeye actually be able to make calls?
If Hawkeye is put in automatic mode, a call would take only milliseconds. Challenges take 10-15 seconds because they are retrieved by a human-involved process, including the challenge itself. With no linesmen, there would not be challenges. It would be like playing on a playing-station.
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