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All credit to Robredo

Alright MTFers, this is my first ever extended post on these forums, and it may well be a controversial one.

A large percentage of the people on the board seem to think that Robredo is an incredibly boring player who simply relies on the mistakes of his opponents to win. I would like to dispute this point.

The man has reached four Grand Slam QFs, three at RG and one at AO.

At MSs his record is 8 QFs, 4 SFs and the win in Hamburg 06.

The highest he has ever got in the world is number 5, and for the last five or so years he has consistently been a top 15 player.

All of this is without having a big serve or many real "weapons" aside from his speed and stamina on court. Surely it's more interesting to watch a Robredo match than a serve-a-thon with Karlovic or Isner?

He also came through perhaps the most loaded sixteen of all, beating a dangerous floater in Zverev as well as the much lauded Safin and Tsonga.

For all of the above, thumbs up to Disco Tommy.
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I agree that Robredo's style may seem boring, but - just like you said - he is 1000 times more entertaining than Karlovic or Isner f.e.

There are many kinf of players - ball bashers, master tacticians, shot makers, serving machines and people seem not to accept that and they bash all the players, whose style they don't accept. For me it seems that most of these trolls haven't ever played tennis and they don't understand the logic of it.

Tennis is a beautiful game, because we have such a diversity of players, playing with their own styles. And the key is to master your style. Karlovic will never win a rally with Nadal, but Nadal will never serve like Karlovic. And Robredo is the master of consistency, he has fantastic tactical feeling, is a great mover and runner. He isn't flashy, but is very solid and reliable and that's his style. You have to admire that, because in these departments he is one of the best players in the world and he mastered them to perfection. Robredo is a very good player, as these features I mentioned are the part of tennis.

And...I have watched Robredo's full match from the place for photographers, which is some two metres away from the courts. And I must tell you that he hits the ball really hard and is a very good one to watch, as all his shots are technically really well. I believe that if he played a "best of 13" match with 99,99% of MTFers - he would give a bagel 7 times, maybe with some golden sets included.

So no need to bash a guy, because you will never achieve the same things as him. Bashers are full of hidden jealousy.
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Re: All credit to Robredo

I agree, I like to watch Robredo better than Karlovic or Isner, for example. However, your post (which was fine), is hardly likely to change anyones opinion on Tommy. Opinions are usually based more on impressions than statistics, no matter how accurate they might be.
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I agree that Robredo's style may seem boring, but - just like you said - he is 1000 times more entertaining than Karlovic or Isner f.e.

There are many kinf of players - ball bashers, master tacticians, shot makers, serving machines and people seem not to accept that and they bash all the players, whose style they don't accept. For me it seems that most of these trolls haven't ever played tennis and they don't understand the logic of it.

Tennis is a beautiful game, because we have such a diversity of players, playing with their own styles. And the key is to master your style. Karlovic will never win a rally with Nadal, but Nadal will never serve like Karlovic. And Robredo is the master of consistency, he has fantastic tactical feeling, is a great mover and runner. He isn't flashy, but is very solid and reliable and that's his style. You have to admire that, because in these departments he is one of the best players in the world and he mastered them to perfection. Robredo is a very good player, as these features I mentioned are the part of tennis.

And...I have watched Robredo's full match from the place for photographers, which is some two metres away from the courts. And I must tell you that he hits the ball really hard and is a very good one to watch, as all his shots are technically really well. I believe that if he played a "best of 13" match with 99,99% of MTFers - he would give a bagel 7 times, maybe with some golden sets included.

So no need to bash a guy, because you will never achieve the same things as him. Bashers are full of hidden jealousy.
Since when are you required to achieve similar things in order criticise someone? Come on, MTF (like any other internet forum) is based on opinions. Granted, some of them may not be fair, but that just comes with the territory. It´s not that serious, so just take it easy.
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Yeah, maybe I overreacted a little bit. After all I am also not a Robredo fan. But I think that he gets too much bashing in comparison to what he has achieved. He is a really good player, just go and watch him live - you will have a better impression.
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Surely it's more interesting to watch a Robredo match than a serve-a-thon with Karlovic or Isner?
Truer impossible. As it was zillion times more interesting watching Muster or even Berasategui than, say, Ivanisevic.
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Tommy Robredo is one the hardest working and fairest competitors who have ever graced the ATP circuit. He should be commended for reaching the ranking of world no. 5 despite having no real weapons and severe limitations. His worth ethic and sheer determination are unrivalled among his peers and his sense of sportsmanship is appreciated by the wider tennis community.

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Tommy Robredo is one the hardest working and fairest competitors who have ever graced the ATP circuit. He should be commended for reaching the ranking of world no. 5 despite having no real weapons and severe limitations. His worth ethic and sheer determination are unrivalled among his peers and his sense of sportsmanship is appreciated by the wider tennis community.

God bless Tommy Robredo.
I never know if you are being serious or not but some folks on this board question his "sportsmanship". I only remember one controversial incident that I watched but since it was a few years back now I realise that he isn't alone in using the rules of the game to his advantage. And off the court seems to be gracious and nice to fans; and that is also my experience.
Some may find his game boring but you can not question his statistics.

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I never know if you are being serious or not but some folks on this board question his "sportsmanship". I only remember one controversial incident that I watched but since it was a few years back now I realise that he isn't alone in using the rules of the game to his advantage. And off the court seems to be gracious and nice to fans; and that is also my experience.
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i think leng jai was/is never serious
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Seriously Tommy certainly deserves credit for getting the maximum out of his potential (unlike some others who shall remain unnamed).

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Truer impossible. As it was zillion times more interesting watching Muster or even Berasategui than, say, Ivanisevic.
Why Ivanisevic? You could say for example Sampras as well...
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Why Ivanisevic? You could say for example Sampras as well...
I can't believe you're comparing those two, a huge serve was about the only thing they'd both got in common. But that only gets yo so far, hence the 14GS vs. 1GS(on the verge of 0)
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Indeed! And I hope Robredo will carry on his fine form and good run to take Djokovic out the next round. He will certainly be the fresher of the two.
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