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Arrogant or Humble?

So you hear stories about how this player is arrogant or just humble. For instance, Roger Federer was asked about why he thought people cheered for him the most among legends, and he said it was because he was the defending champion. JMac claimed it was more so due to him being an underdog here. The same can be said about Murray who claimed once that he was among the very best athletes in the world (that was like a year ago). Djokovic is arrogant, we know that. So basically it means that you can't be a nice guy and expect to challenge for honors, right? What do you all think?

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Re: Arrogant or Humble?

I think its simple why Roger got the most cheers. 1) He is the one crowd remembers the most. All other player were great long long time ago. Some people may had never even seen of their matches. EVERYBODY has seen Roger win. 2) Roger was the last one to walk. Anything that happens in last gets the most attention. So it was given that who ever would walk in end, would get the most cheers. Its pretty simple. 3) not to forget that Roger is the defending champion and he has for won last 4 years in NYC. so its given that crowd loves him.

i dont think Roger is arrogant at all. He does some time try to talk smart and all. But i think thats just his style.

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Re: Arrogant or Humble?

How come Federer is an underdog?
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Re: Arrogant or Humble?

Irrelevant.

Every top player has to have a certain level of arrogance, or they wouldn't be there. The question is depending on the bias of the individual is whether it's self confidence, honesty or plain arrogance.

On Nadal bumping him on the changeover, Rosol said: "It's ok, he wanted to take my concentration; I knew he would try something".


Wilander on Dimitrov - "He has mind set on imitating Federer and yes it looks good. But he has no idea what to do on the court".

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I definitely would have preferred Gaba winning as he needs the points much more, but Jan would have beaten him anyway. I expect Hajek to destroy Machado, like 6-1 6-2.
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Irrelevant.

Every top player has to have a certain level of arrogance, or they wouldn't be there. The question is depending on the bias of the individual is whether it's self confidence, honesty or plain arrogance.
I'd say someone like fed has the damn right to be plain arrogant if he wants to.
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I'd say someone like fed has the damn right to be plain arrogant if he wants to.
I am not saying otherwise actually. It's simple a Federer fan will say he's being honest and a Federer hater would say he's being an arrogant bitch. There are many different responses to one set of actions, it's more dependant on the individual who chooses to see what they want.

On Nadal bumping him on the changeover, Rosol said: "It's ok, he wanted to take my concentration; I knew he would try something".


Wilander on Dimitrov - "He has mind set on imitating Federer and yes it looks good. But he has no idea what to do on the court".

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I definitely would have preferred Gaba winning as he needs the points much more, but Jan would have beaten him anyway. I expect Hajek to destroy Machado, like 6-1 6-2.
Machado wins 6-2 6-1
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I am not saying otherwise actually. It's simple a Federer fan will say he's being honest and a Federer hater would say he's being an arrogant bitch. There are many different responses to one set of actions, it's more dependant on the individual who chooses to see what they want.
Ohh, I agree with you.
Think of it this way though: when fed goes on court, I will bet you 100%that he believes not only that he's the better player, but also that he is going to beat the other guy. And if asked, he says exactly that, then he's just being honest with himself. Hell, anyone who goes on court saying that "well, I don't know, my opponent is very good, I don't know if I'll win, I'll try though" is either:

1 - A loser.
2 - lying out of his teeth. I don't wanna hear that shit from players, you go on court, you better be able to say that you're going to own the other guy.
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Re: Arrogant or Humble?

Of course Federer believes he is the man. I have already pointed out the problems with that, well the maximum self belief he and Nadal have when they are on the court.

It was the same for all the other great players, when they step on the court. As for how they are away from the court, that's their own business.

On Nadal bumping him on the changeover, Rosol said: "It's ok, he wanted to take my concentration; I knew he would try something".


Wilander on Dimitrov - "He has mind set on imitating Federer and yes it looks good. But he has no idea what to do on the court".

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I definitely would have preferred Gaba winning as he needs the points much more, but Jan would have beaten him anyway. I expect Hajek to destroy Machado, like 6-1 6-2.
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Q. The reception that you received last night, the ceremony prior to the beginning of play, quite an enthusiastic reception that you received. You seemed very in control. If you could, just talk a little bit about the way you're feeling after both last night and tonight.

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And then to walk out and almost get a bigger roar than them, it's almost a little bit uneasy. At the same time it's very nice, and I appreciate it very much, especially not being an American.
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Seriously if that's not humble, then I don't know what is.
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It was the same for all the other great players, when they step on the court. As for how they are away from the court, that's their own business.
Exactly. I don't think you judge a tennis player by anything else other than how he conducts and plays on a tennis court.
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How come Federer is an underdog?
Nadal has outplayed or tied Fed in all slams this year. Djokovic has a slam on hard court. Both have achieved more than Fed so Fed is 3rd pick for US Open.
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Nadal has outplayed or tied Fed in all slams this year. Djokovic has a slam on hard court. Both have achieved more than Fed so Fed is 3rd pick for US Open.
Federer is going for his fifth consecutive U.S. Open though. Nadal has won five slams in his whole career, Djokovic...just the one.

Can you see why it's stupid to call Federer an underdog? Especially considering he's also been in the last two slam finals so your conclusions aren't even based on current slam form.
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I doubt we can really draw any conclusions of how players really feel and what they think from the interviews.

It's ridiculous the amount of times they have to answer the same silly questions, they should be made after some matches only, or a weekly interview (one per tournament, two in slams). What can you say after 100 interviews per year? just the same stupid things. You will develop a trend in your statements and keep on it: either the essagerated humility of Nadal, stating that everyone he just played will soon be a top five, or the arrogance(?) of Federer simply by stating that he thinks he is favourite, when everyone was thinking the same and guess what, he was winning everything for four years.

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Federer is going for his fifth consecutive U.S. Open though. Nadal has won five slams in his whole career, Djokovic...just the one.

Can you see why it's stupid to call Federer an underdog? Especially considering he's also been in the last two slam finals so your conclusions aren't even based on current slam form.
But Djoko and Nadal played better on the recent HC events, so they are favourites. I think Federer is the 3rd favourite . And Murray the 4th
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But Djoko and Nadal played better on the recent HC events, so they are favourites. I think Federer is the 3rd favourite . And Murray the 4th
I never denied that. I consider them equal favourites personally. Just think it's asinine to consider Federer an underdog and too strong a word to use.

Anyway, back on topic, I agree entirely with Bazooka.
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