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Are we about to return to the volatile 90s at the Top?

now that rafa is probably going to take the number 1 spot some time during the coming months (maybe this sunday...?) an era is about to come to an end. roger has ruled the tennis world for ages while the rest needed time to catch up - well, rafa has done his job well so far.

but is he gonna be another "king" like roger, ruling the circuit for years to come or do you think we're finally going to see some fluctuations again, like in the 90s where we experienced lots of ups and down at the top of the rankings?

as i said before i just don't believe that nadal can keep playing like this forever, so yeah, i do think roger's decline will eventually lead to quite some "variation" at the top. they're all human now.

what do you think? will rafa rule the same way roger did? what about djokovic or murray? what about roger upping the ante once more?
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Re: Are we about to return to the volatile 90s at the Top?

I think Rafa will keep the top ranking until the Grass season next year, he hasn't got a title to defend until Monte Carlo, and I can't see him struggling on clay anytime soon. After that, yes, I think the top spot may change hands a bit between him and Djokovic.

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Re: Are we about to return to the volatile 90s at the Top?

I can see Nadal staying as a semi-dominant #1

He'll be #1 and everyone will know he is, but he wont be nearly as dominant as Roger and will lose from time to time. But on whatever surface, against whoever, he will be the favorite.

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Re: Are we about to return to the volatile 90s at the Top?

i might be going out on a limb here but i think he's going to go into quite a slump next year. unless he does drugs.

no man can keep up this kind of pace, no man can survive this sort of recklessness against his own body for two consecutive years without additional help from "other sources. period.

the year-end number 1 2009 will be djokovic.
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Re: Are we about to return to the volatile 90s at the Top?

Nadal will keep N.1 until at least next year HC season, then we'll see what happens.
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Re: Are we about to return to the volatile 90s at the Top?

I think a lot depends on the way Nadal and Federer play over the next few months. If Nadal fails to capitalize and improve at the USO, the indoor season and has a MC like last year, then the #1 could be up for grabs. Also, if Federer actually finds any real form, does well at the Olympics, wins USO, plays some optionals this fall and takes the MC again, then he'd possibly be #1 again by the end of the year (a la Sampras).

I don't think anyone else really influences this, though, I think it all depends on the play of those two men. I guess it's possible, but I can't really see Djokovic making it to #1 this year, and no one else could mathematically.
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i might be going out on a limb here but i think he's going to go into quite a slump next year. unless he does drugs.

no man can keep up this kind of pace, no man can survive this sort of recklessness against his own body for two consecutive years without additional help from "other sources. period.

the year-end number 1 2009 will be djokovic.
Of course, Nadal cant possibly keep this up without 'roids

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Well now that you've mentioned roids...

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i might be going out on a limb here but i think he's going to go into quite a slump next year. unless he does drugs.

no man can keep up this kind of pace, no man can survive this sort of recklessness against his own body for two consecutive years without additional help from "other sources. period.

the year-end number 1 2009 will be djokovic.
Yet Federer kept up that kind of pace for over 4 years. Did he do drugs?

Federer is my favorite player, and has even surpassed by all time fave of Edberg of late. But to argue that Nadal must be doing drugs in order to sustain his game is just silly. Yes, I understand that Nadal's game is tougher on his body than Federer's, and that will probably hurt in the long run. But for now, Nadal is young and relatively healthy and could have that same kind of 2 or 3 year run. The difference being that I will still be surprised if he can fully compete for the USO and AO, but I think he'll be a contender at the French and Wimbledon for a while.

In the end, I think the 2 will probably retire fairly close together, just because in the long run Nadal's body will *probably* break down first. Even then, one never knows.
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Re: Are we about to return to the volatile 90s at the Top?

I think we will return to a time where there is more shifting in the number one spots.

I am not saying Rafa will lose the spot in a week, but I could see Roger gaining it back at the end of the year, Rafa getting it back if he is able to do well again in clay or get a spring hard court Masters, Nole getting it at some point, etc. Rafa is less consistent on hard courts than he is on clay- and I see that continuing during his career. I could see him getting say to the finals of the Aussie Open- but I can't see him winning AO, IW and Miami the way Roger has done. I do think Rafa is a better hard court player than some give him credit for, but I do think it will remain the court where he will be most vulnerable.

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Of course, Nadal cant possibly keep this up without 'roids
two years in a row with this intensity, this playing style and this schedule?

no. i don't believe that is possible for a regular body, sorry. nadal is a bubble these days and will burst someday just like the real estate bubble. here's hoping he'll burst in a sort of natural way and doesn't hurt the tour's image lateron...because as you know, bursting bubbles lots of times implicate criminal activities.
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Yet Federer kept up that kind of pace for over 4 years. Did he do drugs?
you do realise the difference between fed's game and nadal's game, right?

even hewitt couldn't keep up his no.1-level for 3-4 years (and don't you tell me he lacks will power) yet nadal is supposed to do this for years to come (and has been doing it for the last 3 years already)? give me a break.
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Re: Are we about to return to the volatile 90s at the Top?

Obviously, Nadal already got No 1 Ranking after Federer before QF which He got only 75 points.

Nadal doesn't need any win to get to No 1 spot now

But the question, How long will he stay at No 1.

I guess at least one year from today.

Djok and rest of young telants as Murray may getting close next year or two, but Nadal would possibly stay at No 1 even not lot of points away from No 2 Djok and maybe no 3 Murray

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Re: Are we about to return to the volatile 90s at the Top?

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two years in a row with this intensity, this playing style and this schedule?

no. i don't believe that is possible for a regular body, sorry. nadal is a bubble these days and will burst someday just like the real estate bubble. here's hoping he'll burst in a sort of natural way and doesn't hurt the tour's image lateron...because as you know, bursting bubbles lots of times implicate criminal activities.
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yet nadal is supposed to do this for years to come (and has been doing it for the last 3 years already)?
You are acting like he has already done it for two years in a row. Weren't folks in March saying he was washed up? Why start bashing and insinuating now...oh wait- it is MTF.

You say he has been playing at the same pace for three years in a row...I guess I missed his stellar time at Cincy and the USO last year. Silly me. And that great AO in 2006 within this span of three years that you are talking about....oh wait, he had a foot injury.

So are you saying if he doesn't keep winning he is on drugs or if he does keep winning he is on drugs. You are kind of contradicting yourself here. Was this thread just a chance for you to start with the Rafa must be on roids bashing?

As I said in my earlier post- I feel that he will be more streaky in hard court. But it should be noted that this year he won easier on clay than normal, so he is not as burnt out as he might normally be.

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Re: Are we about to return to the volatile 90s at the Top?

i'm saying that i'm afraid he has been on drugs for some time.

and i'm saying i'm sure that he is on drugs if he keeps the current level for another year.

btw i'm not a rafa hater at all. sorry that i post what i believe. am i a bad human being now? i could just lie and come up with tons of happy smilies, that'd be easier for sure.
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