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What kind of human being Federer is ?

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Reading articles like the one above, and i tend to agree with this kind of opinnions, one could say only nice things about Roger.

But it seems he got so used to being the best, no. 1 player in the world, that the past few months his press conferences were at times strange, his answers not quite polite, his self-esteem publicly over-emphasized...

What do you think guys?
Is Federer able to let go naturally, polite and with a realistic approach for the future, his throne?

Or he will give to the public the "nasty", "darth-vader"-ish side of his personality ?

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Re: What kind of human being Federer is ?

The REAL Federer always appears when things aren't going his way.

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Well, imo, Federer has always been very approachable in relation to the media consistent with his rise up the world rankings. What he isn't now used to is having every aspect of his game scrutinised to a point over and over again in press conferences, which would obviously be straining for anyone, let alone Federer.

After a rather lacklustre season by his very high standards, he's now experiencing a pressure he probably hasn't felt before, which has been epitomised in the way he is dealing with the press. It's probably a number of different factors contributing to an all-round frustrated feeling both on and off the court.

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Reading articles like the one above, and i tend to agree with this kind of opinnions, one could say only nice things about Roger.
I have no doubt that he indeed is a very nice guy. But of course he is HUMAN, with all faults and mistakes that we all have.

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But it seems he got so used to being the best, no. 1 player in the world, that the past few months his pres conferences were at times strange, his answers not quite polite, his self-esteem publicly over-emphasized...
Have to disagree with you here, quite vehemently so. If anything, I am surprised by the polite way he still manages to handle himself, while he is obviously going through very rough times. He's always been rather honest in his pressers, if not right-out dorky - that's nothing new. But you'll never see him behave like, for instance, Roddick...

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Is Federer able to let go naturally, polite and with a realistic approach for the future, his throne?

Or he will give to the public the "nasty", "darth-vader"-ish side of his personality ?
Like I said, he is no 'god'. None of the players are.
The biggest mistake to make here is not acknowledging that he is indeed a very sensitive and emotional guy, and not at all this 'robot' that some people seem to think he is (used to be a major headcase for a very long time in his career, remember?).
It might very well be that we'll be seeing more of this 'dark' side of his character if his slump continues - and it might be just me, but I think it was already very visible in that match against Simon - he was muttering and even asking some irritating fellows in the crowd to 'shut up'. I don't like it very much, but it is... human, I guess.

As for the way he will continue to carry himself when inevitably having to give up his throne - I have no doubt that he will graciously and wholeheartedly congratulate his deserving successor.

Hopefully he'll be able to find some way, someone, to help him deal with the mental problems he's obviously suffering now.

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The REAL Federer always appears when things aren't going his way.
I could say you're trolling with answers like this one, but i will not say that.
What makes you think about a real Federer and a false one?

Your argument should imply that for the past 4 and a half years Fed used almost continuously a "mask", 'cause he won almost all the time.

But i remember him being so graceful with Nalbandian last year after that nice Madrid final and i thought back then that he can accept not being the best always.

Again, what makes you say what you say? All the players have long faces and are quite out-of-their usual self when they lose matches, isn't it?

What about a guy used to win for the past 4 and a half years?

Maybe is human nature to let go harder in that kind of situations...
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PS. Your topic title makes you sound a little like Yoda from Star Wars.
I do not believe, of course, in absolute good or evil, but that's why we use titles around here, to attract people, isn't it ?
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Re: What kind of human being Federer is ?

This is not meant to be critical - I like and respect Roger - but think he may be showing his real self with how he's handling these recent losses. He accepted that Rafa is his main challenger and has been courteous and respectful of him up to a point. But that was when Roger was way ahead of Rafa and everyone else in the rankings. Now Rafa's within spitting distance, he is not enjoying the rivalry.

Roger's usually articulate and chooses his words carefully, but he's understandably pretty bitter and to a certain extent in denial.
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I do not believe, of course, in absolute good or evil, but that's why we use titles around here, to attract people, isn't it ?
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After all, I've always got the impression that Federer was someone who was quite introverted, enjoyed the peace and quiet, quite a sensitive fellow and that's reflected in his press conferences. Naturally, anything can contribute to one's mood during a conference, especially if your someone like the personality I've described above.

It doesn't necessarily always relate back to the tennis court, it could have been something personal that happened prior to the event, any little thing at all. He's always been honest and straight-forward without being too eccentric at his conferences. I just think he's going through a rough patch at the moment, and things naturally get blown up out of proportion.
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I think its very admirable how he keeps it together. Nadal has clearly got the better of him mentally but he always has someone reminding him about Nadal every 5 minutes. He does so much media and press work, he must be utterly sick to the stomach being reminded about the Spaniard. I'd like to think I could remain calm and considerate in his situation but the reality is that i'd probably just want to tell everyone who reminds me i'm not as good as my rival to f*** off
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He's a very bad person, and so is Federbear

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I just realised you were refering to the title's topic, the verb at the end, etc. ...

It is not at all about Yoda, it has something to do with my english...I'm still learning...

Anyway, i agree with you in not jumping to conclusions about Roger based only on a 10 minutes PC.

I'd love and i hope to see his old self back..and this will definitely happen when he'll win the next major, maybe this year at the USOpen...
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I just realised you were refering to the title's topic, the verb at the end, etc. ...

It is not at all about Yoda, it has something to do with my english...I'm still learning...

Anyway, i agree with you in not jumping to conclusions about Roger based only on a 10 minutes PC.

I'd love and i hope to see his old self back..and this will definitely happen when he'll win the next major, maybe this year at the USOpen...
Ah I'm sorry, I didn't mean to offend your English, I was just making an inoffensive joke

I think so too. If he can get his act together by then, and that's a big if, then he may still have something to say come the end of the second week at Flushing.
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I think he is a bit arrogent, but I'm no psychiatrist so I don't really know. But when you've been at the top that long it must be hard.

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I don't believe you stay at the top of tennis this long without some degree of arrogance, but what do I know, I'm a McEnroe fan.. The king of Cocky.

I think Fed is handling himself pretty well in some of these PCs. Let's face it, some of these idiots can ask some really dumb and inappropriate questions. No one stays at the top forever and all have had to deal with their decline. Each seems to have done it in a different way. I think Fed will get better at dealing with this as time goes by.
I remember when he first started really dominating he had trouble dealing with that too. He was not quite sure how to answer some of the dumb questions he got then either. One thing for sure, he won't punch any of these morons out, which I'd be tempted to do.

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One thing for sure, he won't punch any of these morons out, which I'd be tempted to do.
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