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Why don't North American events have covers?

Just watching the pathetic sight of a lone person trying to dry a soaked centre court in Toronto with a brush brings me to the question as to why these tennis events in North America never have any covers for their courts?

Is there any reason for this?
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Re: Why don't North American events have covers?

Good question actually, I've often wondered that myself. Surely it'd be more beneficial to have some covers at the ready just in case.

I'm just surprised they haven't brought out a hairdryer to dry off the courts.
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I cant understand it. They get those court blowers out as well which cant be too cheap. Just wack a cover on ffs

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Re: Why don't North American events have covers?

Another mystery just like how Roland Garros and Wimbledon don't invest in some lights so that players can see something when matches go on at 9 pm.
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Re: Why don't North American events have covers?

they don't want to invest in the money to get roofs, they think it's no need because they can schedule their tournament so it finishes in time eventually
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Re: Why don't North American events have covers?

I think slowly all tournaments should move indoors as rain delays are annoying to everyone. Except grass, of course, as it requires natural light.

Anyone know why we very rarely have indoor red clay events? I remember a Futures or two being played on it but that's it.
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Another mystery just like how Roland Garros and Wimbledon don't invest in some lights so that players can see something when matches go on at 9 pm.
As for Roland Garros, I'm not sure if it is such a negative thing that they don't have lights because clay and floodlights usually don't get along too well in terms of good sight. Well, for some it's an enormous problems, for some less. But it's much more problematic than on hardcourts.

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Anyone know why we very rarely have indoor red clay events? I remember a Futures or two being played on it but that's it.
It's possible of course, but mostly such temporary indoor clay courts which are laid in multifunctional arenas or domes are of a worse quality because a good claycourts needs to be set well in advance and consists of more layers than most of these indoor clay courts which are typically used for Davis Cup, for example.

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Another mystery just like how Roland Garros and Wimbledon don't invest in some lights so that players can see something when matches go on at 9 pm.
There will be lights when the new roof is built i believe


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Re: Why don't North American events have covers?

It's not practical to build a roof on a hard court just for a one-week tournament which is occasionally interrupted by rain.
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Re: Why don't North American events have covers?

Okay, Neely.

The sight problem with clay and lights is definitely there, coming to think of it. But at least all the hard court tournaments should be played indoors.
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Okay, Neely.

The sight problem with clay and lights is definitely there, coming to think of it. But at least all the hard court tournaments should be played indoors.
PSH, YES! Exactly, let's play tennis all on the same surface too. Outdoors is for the birds.

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As for Roland Garros, I'm not sure if it is such a negative thing that they don't have lights because clay and floodlights usually don't get along too well in terms of good sight. Well, for some it's an enormous problems, for some less. But it's much more problematic than on hardcourts.


There are lots of clay court tournaments which have matches scheduled at night and are played under lights. I never heard someone complaining.
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Re: Why don't North American events have covers?

At least they have lights. But it would be interesting if having a retractable roof in the center court became a requirement to hold a TMS event. Bring on Ion Tiriac.


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As for Roland Garros, I'm not sure if it is such a negative thing that they don't have lights because clay and floodlights usually don't get along too well in terms of good sight. Well, for some it's an enormous problems, for some less. But it's much more problematic than on hardcourts.
Yet there are plenty of clay ATP events that have night sessions. All the Latin American ones, as well as Umag, Hamburg... And it works well there, so I don't see much of a problem.

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PSH, YES! Exactly, let's play tennis all on the same surface too. Outdoors is for the birds.
Yeah, adding a roof makes the quality of tennis so different.
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Re: Why don't North American events have covers?

BTW, big parts of the answer to the thread question are the heat retention of hard courts, thus resulting condensation under the covers which would still make towelling necessary, lacking drainage systems at the side of the courts and general air humidity.

My guess is that probably only a tented cover like you're seeing it at Wimbledon with a really good (artificial) air circulation beneath it, maybe even better an air dehumidification system would work.

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