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Rafa's RG Run: the most impressive in the modern era?

After seeing Rafa STORM through the entire draw at this year's RG...culminating with the utter thrashings of #3 Novak Djokovic and possible GOAT Roger Federer...was this the most dominating run by a player in modern slam history. I say yes.

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One interesting note: isn't it ironic that the two champions at RG were Rafa and Ana: who were the players chosen for the draw ceremony? Hmm...

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Re: Rafa's RG Run: the most impressive in the modern era?

well they were the defending champions, since Henin retired.
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Re: Rafa's RG Run: the most impressive in the modern era?

Please refer to Borg '78 and '80.

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Re: Rafa's RG Run: the most impressive in the modern era?

Yup, no doubt Rafa´s run was impressive indeed, but so were some of Borg´s in the 1970´s.
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Re: Rafa's RG Run: the most impressive in the modern era?

Yes, it was.
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Re: Rafa's RG Run: the most impressive in the modern era?

Very impressive from Rafa; but it was expected. Not as impressive as Gaudio's.
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Re: Rafa's RG Run: the most impressive in the modern era?

IMO it was equal to Borg (who lost fewer games) in 78 and 80.


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Re: Rafa's RG Run: the most impressive in the modern era?

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IMO it was equal to Borg (who lost fewer games) in 78 and 80.
Except that Borg did it twice.

Also Borg beat Vilas who was another clay court legend. So, Nadal was great this year at Wimbledon, but maybe lacks and inch on Borg. If he wins next year, he surpasses Borg.

And, of course, Borg and the other players of his time weren't focused on records as are today's players -- well, maybe Vilas was.
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Except that Borg did it twice.

Also Borg beat Vilas who was another clay court legend. So, Nadal was great this year at Wimbledon, but maybe lacks and inch on Borg. If he wins next year, he surpasses Borg.

And, of course, Borg and the other players of his time weren't focused on records as are today's players -- well, maybe Vilas was.
Agree with this and it was a totally different time. Let's also remember that at the time, Borg just happened to be pulling off 5 straight Wimbledons. I would have liked to have seen Borg play with the racquet that Nadal uses, and Nadal with a wooden racquet and see how they look then.
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For those of you youngsters that didn't see Borg play, their ground strokes were similar (power difference due to equipment), biggest difference was IMO Borg had a much better serve. Won a lot more free points on server, hence, the success at Wimbledon too.

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Re: Rafa's RG Run: the most impressive in the modern era?

After some of Borg's runs, as far as the scorelines go, yes without a dout.
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Re: Rafa's RG Run: the most impressive in the modern era?

MacTheKnife, I also would like to see Borg's opponents play with today's rackets. What you said it's biased.

OTOH, it's always easy to talk. I'm not gonna downgrade Bjorn Borg an inch, but Rafa's athletic skills are over the rest of the players of the world nowadays. Today tennis it's by far more exigent phisically speaking than in past years.

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One interesting note: isn't it ironic that the two champions at RG were Rafa and Ana: who were the players chosen for the draw ceremony? Hmm...
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Re: Rafa's RG Run: the most impressive in the modern era?

Rafa's domination at RG/Clay pales in comparison to Fed's domination at Wimbledon / USO / Australian Open / Hard courts. Rafa dominates only clay, where as Fed dominated ALL other surfaces for so long. No comparison.

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And, of course, Borg and the other players of his time weren't focused on records as are today's players -- well, maybe Vilas was.
They weren't indeed, but neither is Federer for that matter. It is medias who started that talk, probably because they didn't know how else to writte about Fed. And he himself is maybe the opposite of statistical hunter - he seems to just love the game

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Re: Rafa's RG Run: the most impressive in the modern era?

Given that today the players require more work to achieve a result like that, it was the most impressive in modern era ever what Nadal played.

You just can't compare the times of Borg when Borg had half of the opponents with a fat belly and when they played 70 mph forehands at best compare to today.

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