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Weakest clay court era in history

When a muppet like this UE machine (Fed) is the 2nd best player on the surface you know there is something really wrong.

Where are the Muster's or Guga's? They would have given Nadal more trouble than this Fedclown.
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Re: Weakest clay court era in history

I have thought this for a while, Federer is a very good clay court player but the rest are lagging behind.

Before, clay tennis was more of less heavy top spin players with good movement and a big engine just like Nadal, he has no big rivals right now, I am just waiting for Bellucci to come through.

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Re: Weakest clay court era in history

Heard of off-days? Federer is not playing his best. Nadal would have trashed any of the former champs as well. The game is evolving and it's a large difference from the game today from the game 20 years ago.

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I disagree. I just think Nadal is truly that good. His consistency, topspin, and angles are the best I've ever seen on clay (and I'm always the first to refer to the "Borg era"). On top of that, his serve has become a force now as well. The way he just thrashes his opponents is really something, and he hardly gives a single point away. The sickest part is that I still get the feeling he hasn't reached his full potential yet.

We're watching the best clay court player of all time folks, plain and simple...
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i have run out of superlatives. this is "in the zone" tennis.
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Re: Weakest clay court era in history

Guga, Costa, Corretja, Bruguera, Muster, Courier, Ferrero in 03, all better than Fed on clay.

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Re: Weakest clay court era in history

No, just greatest claycourt player who ever lived making this era look very weak. In fact this claycourt era is not great and not bad, just avarage.
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Re: Weakest clay court era in history

Maybe Rafa would still win a lot but I'm sure the clay specialists from the 90's can beat Rafa a couple of times.

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Nadal would rip any clay court era to shreds. An absolute genius.
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Guga, Costa, Corretja, Bruguera, Muster, Courier, Ferrero in 03, all better than Fed on clay.
None of them made three finals in a row, or 4 semis in a row. Why is that? If they were such good claycourters, why were they all so inconsistant?

I'll give you Guga, Bruguera, and Courier, but the rest aren't better then Federer.

Let me put it this way. Nadal is 28-0 on clay. He has never lost his entire career there. Next year he will break Borg's record of 32-0 at RG.

He has a serious claim now to be the best claycourter of all time. He already broke Borg's streaks on clay with 81 straight.

Now Federer? He's only ever lost to Nadal at the FO in 4 years.

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None of them made three finals in a row, or 4 semis in a row. Why is that? If they were such good claycourters, why were they all so inconsistant?

I'll give you Guga, Bruguera, and Courier, but the rest aren't better then Federer.

Let me put it this way. Nadal is 28-0 on clay. He has never lost his entire career there. Next year he will break Borg's record of 28-0 at RG.

He has a serious claim now to be the best claycourter of all time. He already broke Borg's streaks on clay with 81 straight.
Because, it was a tougher era. And they didn't have to play chokers and mugs in the latter stages like the PMK and Monfils.

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Re: Weakest clay court era in history

I think Fed would romp plenty of other great claycourters from the past when he's not having a shocker of a day. Yes, good players can have a really, really bad day.

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This is the weakest clay court era because there is one genius that makes the other good players look really pathetic out there.

Rafael Nadal in a few more years will be the greatest clay courter of all time, he is fucking animal on this surface.
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When a muppet like this UE machine (Fed) is the 2nd best player on the surface you know there is something really wrong.

Where are the Muster's or Guga's? They would have given Nadal more trouble than this Fedclown.
I agree, you can be right.

BUT Who knows, we never see they play out.

GO Roger Federer, Nick Kyrgios, Borna Coric, Vasek Pospisil, Thomaz Bellucci, Kei Nishikori, , Milos Raonic, Jerzy Janowicz, Grigor Dimitrov, Dennis Novikov and Bernard Tomic

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