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I think the article discusses how the existing order has been affected by Djokovic's presence. So while Djokovic is the central theme, I feel the article is about the top 3.
I know what you mean, but just about any substantive article on one of the top 3 will necessarily make reference to the other 2. This is a very Nole-centric article.

I think the top 3 players' MTF forums are woefully undeveloped considering the sheer volume of fans. Maybe this will change if we shunt these types of articles to those forums.
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I know what you mean, but just about any substantive article on one of the top 3 will necessarily make reference to the other 2. This is a very Nole-centric article.

I think the top 3 players' MTF forums are woefully undeveloped considering the sheer volume of fans. Maybe this will change if we shunt these types of articles to those forums.
Not likely. Majority of MTFers are a fan+hater combination. The second largest group are predominant haters (of any given player), and if there ARE "benevolent" groups of fans, they just love to chitchat endlessly on anything non-tennis.

It seems that people mostly are NOT interested in tennis talk if they can't exercise the option of vomiting all over a player they want to vomit on.

So, tennis talk is mostly "Go <a player I like> and fuck you <a player I dislike>", and where there's no hostility, we have something like "Oh, how's the weather in wherever you live?" or "I'd kill for shoes like that" or "Listen what happened today to me in GM" etc.

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Interesting article, and I think it is fair to say that part of the problem with Novak and the backlash against him in some quarters is that he is different, he is a bit brash, he is a bit more outspoken about what he thinks and what he wants, and his family are more vocal and a larger presence than people have been used to.

The Federer Nadal cosy duopoly which was in place for quite some time was just that - cosy. They like each other, they talk about each other with respect, they rarely say anything gauche or out of turn about the other - it's a very civilised rivalry.

And then in bursts a teenager with a cocky attitude, with initially more talk that game, though now his game usually matches up to his talk in large part.

For many people I think they have reacted against the changed picture and against him for changing it.

That's not the reason why everyone has taken against him, but certainly I think in some cases, it explains a few things.

Roger and Rafa have been cosy, cute and a stable presence at the top of the game for ages, but that had to change eventually and Djokovic has every right to bring that change if he can.

Might as well get used to the idea.

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Can't we just combine all the Novak-bashing threads into one? It's really getting tedious wading through all the hate threads.
I thought about creating a thread like that. but given the amount of bashing, and the different reasons for why he's bashed (injuries, his parents, his comments, etc), it seems a Djokovic "critcism" forum would be more appropriate (not gonna happen though).

Just think about a thread, where he, his mother and his father are criticized all at the same time for multiple reasons. It would be impossible to follow that thread.

If this keeps up, I may create 3 separate bashing threads based on the different categories, but we'll see.
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sound take on the current scenery at the top...

good article that...

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I thought about creating a thread like that. but given the amount of bashing, and the different reasons for why he's bashed (injuries, his parents, his comments, etc), it seems a Djokovic "critcism" forum would be more appropriate (not gonna happen though).

Just think about a thread, where he, his mother and his father are criticized all at the same time for multiple reasons. It would be impossible to follow that thread.

If this keeps up, I may create 3 separate bashing threads based on the different categories, but we'll see.
yeah.. its been 3 years of uniterrupted broadcast from fed and nadal... its understandable that all the fed and nadal nuthuggers are getting a bit over the top...

this is a very emotionally destabilising time for them and we must 1st remember that before making any knee jerk reactions...

i'm not exactly getting my thrills from the Novak Show... but, it looks as tho we'll have to live with him for a while...

while, i havent been a mtf poster for long, i can imagine novak haters placing their fingerprints over most threads for the rest of the year... with a climax at the end of year championships where #1 is settled and the victor can call for silence...

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