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Radek Stepanek... grow up

That behavior against Ferrer was crap. Radek played very well, his game is rare to see nowadays and I enjoyed it, but he was hardly respectful to his rival.

The gestures, celebrations, and intimidating stares to his rival were very cheap. He was annoying. Specially in the fifth when he started celebrating not only his winners, but every UE from Ferrer, even if it was not a BP or anything. He would start running left and right with his fist up whenever Ferrer sent a ball to the net. Pathetic.

IMO, that was a much worse case of gamemanship than those of Djokovic. He should have saved all that energy, or concentrating a little more on serve (he basically double faulted himself out of the match after coming back in the fifth).

I had never seen such a clown in the court, ever.

BTW, Ferrer got angry and broke his racquet on his knee... again. Not good behavior either, but I doubt it was premeditated or it helped him at all, unlike what Stepanek did.

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Re: Radek Stepanek... grow up

Someone just started watching tennis yesterday it seems. He has done that for ages, that's the way he is, you don't have to like it and this is not exactly news.




On Nadal bumping him on the changeover, Rosol said: "It's ok, he wanted to take my concentration; I knew he would try something".


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I definitely would have preferred Gaba winning as he needs the points much more, but Jan would have beaten him anyway. I expect Hajek to destroy Machado, like 6-1 6-2.
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Re: Radek Stepanek... grow up

I had never seen him before, but I am sorry, I have watched tennis for many years now. However it's hard to see an event out of Slams or AMS events on Spanish TV, so my knowledge outside these tournaments is low... however, I think this 4th round is one of his top achievements, so his fault, not mine!

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Re: Radek Stepanek... grow up

watch his recent match against roger in rome, he was really getting on my nerves

but he has been doing this now for...
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I had never seen him before, but I am sorry, I have watched tennis for many years now. However it's hard to see an event out of Slams or AMS events on Spanish TV, so my knowledge outside these tournaments is low... however, I think this 4th round is one of his top achievements, so his fault, not mine!
Proves what exactly? He has made TMS finals, 2 of them even and a QF at Wimbledon, but I didn't know Spain was located in Burkina Faso that he coverage was that poor.

Not bad for a guy in 2002 was strictly a doubles specialist.

Funny enough he lost to a Spaniard in Robredo in one of those TMS finals.

Here it is. People bitch that players don't show emotion and they are robots, then when someone does some antics and expresses themselves, then they should shut up.

Nadal taking 3hrs in between points that's gamesmanship.
Djokovic with 95 ball bounces on big points that's it as well.
Stepanek's antics have been called gamesmanship and it's easy to see why.

Those 3 things above are gamesmanship, just done in a different manner.

On Nadal bumping him on the changeover, Rosol said: "It's ok, he wanted to take my concentration; I knew he would try something".


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I definitely would have preferred Gaba winning as he needs the points much more, but Jan would have beaten him anyway. I expect Hajek to destroy Machado, like 6-1 6-2.
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Re: Radek Stepanek... grow up

u dont have to watch him for 5 years to see that he's a clown on court.

he forces a tough mental game onto his opponent , and people overcritize him because he's (arguably) physically unattractive.

lets face it , he looks like someone who eats babies.

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Stepanek really has done this for ages - it's not new - but he has had quite a few injuries so people may not be as familiar with him. He's an acquired taste, admittedly, but he's an one-off in both character and appearance, an aggressive player and usually great to watch. Have always liked him.
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At times I thought it was a bit much. Hey, If I had Vadisova waiting at home for me...I'd be demonstrative, too. Wait a minute...I think I do.







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Proves what exactly? He has made TMS finals, 2 of them even and a QF at Wimbledon, but I didn't know Spain was located in Burkina Faso that he coverage was that poor.

Not bad for a guy in 2002 was strictly a doubles specialist.

Funny enough he lost to a Spaniard in Robredo in one of those TMS finals..
The fact that I have not seen this before proves what exactly? I can't see every match, unfortunately I can only watch TV on weekends. However, the fact that I have to speak about my TV schedules shows you're really arguing in the wrong direction... he's annoying, no matter it's old news.

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Here it is. People bitch that players don't show emotion and they are robots, then when someone does some antics and expresses themselves, then they should shut up.

Nadal taking 3hrs in between points that's gamesmanship.
Djokovic with 95 ball bounces on big points that's it as well.
Stepanek's antics have been called gamesmanship and it's easy to see why.

Those 3 things above are gamesmanship, just done in a different manner.
Not really. This is a matter of opinion, you see, I can't prove anything. But for me, the line is pretty clear. When I think the players are just seeking concentration, or self-motivation, it's not gamemanship. If it affects the rival, it's the job of the umpire to remind them. However, sometimes a player tries to influence his rival with this kind of behavior. That's gamemanship for me, and yesterday it was pretty obvious (for me) that Radek was aware of Pics being somewhat unstable, and trying to get on his nerves.

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I read Ferrer's behaviour was awful during the match (threw his towel right in a ball boy's face, broke his racket)...

Can anyone confirm it ?

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I read Ferrer's behaviour was awful during the match (threw his towel right in a ball boy's face, broke his racket)...

Can anyone confirm it ?
During maybe ten minutes, he was totally out of his mind after losing the 2nd. However, I don't think he throwed the towel intentionally to the boy's face, he just throwed it away in anger. Was not nice to watch, he was also shouting to himself in spanish, I could get sometimes "Always the same, on some games I can't feel the ball" and crazy stuff like that.

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Nadal taking 3hrs in between points that's gamesmanship.
Djokovic with 95 ball bounces on big points that's it as well.
no , how can that be gamesmanship? i mean have you seen those 2 players play ?

the timeouts are gamesmanship but this is far from it.


generally it could be used as a gamesmanship technique but nadal's and djokovic's serve ritual is not that.

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ferrer sometimes did not behave that well too, in his match vs nadal in Monte Claros, when the empire ruled against him, he grabbed the empire's arms with anger, wanting to drag him to watch the mark again even he already did so, murmurded words of angry, throwing rackets ....... , so its a bit strange for me that many said he is nice off court

so Radek is not that bad coz many did the same

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ferrer sometimes did not behave that well too, in his match vs nadal in Monte Claros, when the empire ruled against him, he grabbed the empire's arms with anger, wanting to drag him to watch the mark again even he already did so, murmurded words of angry, throwing rackets ....... , so its a bit strange for me that many said he is nice off court

so Radek is not that bad coz many did the same
Both of these fellows seem to be very expressive on court. Rather amusing, really.

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