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Should bad language be tolerated on the courts??

I was watching the Murray and Almagro match yesterday. There was a photo shot with Murray and 2 ball boys in the background where Murray yelled out FUCK really loud. Throughout the match, you could hear Murray talk to himself and say some really obscene words. Now I myself am a tennis player and realize that frustration is a big part of this game, but should this kind of language be tolerated on the courts where most ball boys are teenagers? What example does that set for them? Youzhny is another hothead who im sure curses in Russian, so not many folks can understand him anyways. However, something needs to be done about this! I wouldn't let my kid be a ball boy during Andy's matches that's for sure!!

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Totally agree. Andy does behave like a selfish diva not taking into account that some words may offend. When I was watching his matches in Dubai (where 'fuck' is a truly offensive word to both the local culture and to kids as you say) it became clear how naive and self-involved he is. Is he ever going to receive a penalty? I hope so
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Is he ever going to receive a penalty? I hope so
I think all they get is a code violation. And I'm not sure at what point in the match the umpire decides to do so.

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Re: Should bad language be tolerated on the courts??

Goran did the same thing in croatian, but with much more style....


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Its gotta be really hard for televisers to censor coarse langauge. It is really damaging to the sport. Where's the spotsmanship that used to be in tennis?
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Its gotta be really hard for televisers to censor coarse langauge. It is really damaging to the sport. Where's the spotsmanship that used to be in tennis?
That's true! ESPN seems to do a good job of it, as they mute the sound or direct to a different camera when they sense the heat. The TENNIS CHANNEL (which I love as there are no commercials) shows every second of the action. I personally enjoy watching players get frustrated, as I think it shows a different side of them: how they handle themselves during tough times, and how they handle pressure. However, taking my kid to a tennis game when Murray or Mischa are playing, no way Jose.

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I think all they get is a code violation. And I'm not sure at what point in the match the umpire decides to do so.
Hopefully at match point
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I think its a part of sport.
I have no probs with it !

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Do love the idea that kids/teenagers need to be shielded from choice language. If you've watched UK TV or been on British public transport recently you have to accept you're assaulted from all sides with F*** & C*** and it's invariably schoolkids/teenagers. It's the older people I always feel sorry for - they do retain the capacity to be shocked.
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Doesn't really bother me, I must admit.
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Re: Should bad language be tolerated on the courts??

You can't protect kids from all the bad things in the world. That's such a naive thinking.
As long as a player is not insulting someone besides himself, I don't see a problem.
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I dont think players should be penalized for bad language as long as they dont direct it towards anyone else but themselves. The notion that ballboys and kids watching could be hurt in any way is simply ridiculous. Neither Andy nor Goran are "hurting the sport".
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Lol at the idea of "protecting" teenagers from bad language. I don't know where you're from, but bad language is a teen culture here. Also bad language is entirely subjective.
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Re: Should bad language be tolerated on the courts??

I think it depends on several things. There are situations when you as a player simply get frustrated because of how things go on the court. Sometimes you simply need to get it out with a loud "F***". But mostly it's done with it then. Then there are situations when a player is completely frustrated with the way he plays. At those situations you tend to insult yourself (Schüttler is one of the best examples for that, he tends to destroy himself, when things don't go his way). I don't think that in those situations a code violation is really needed. But when someone is swearing about everything and nothing, insulting opponent, judges, referees and/or ballkids a player should be get a code violation. On the other side the ball kids aren't so small that they never heard the word "F***", I think that they can judge how it was meant.

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Well put, Jelena. Now please lose against Dominika.
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