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What the f*** is going on with Federer's backhand?

Even you one-handed backhand haters or just general Federer haters cannot deny there was a point where his backhand was great (a few years ago!), what the hell has happened to it?
He's still able to execute amazing passing shots and amazing volleys but general the backhand shot is pathetic now, had it been stronger he would have beaten Nadal on clay soo many more times?

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Re: What the fuck is going on with Federer's backhand?

His backhand has always been pathetic. Even Karlovic's is better.
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Re: What the fuck is going on with Federer's backhand?

looks a bit more dodgy thesedays doesnt it

i think its his crappier movement - he's not in as good a position as the last few years and his opponents are really abusing it more and more

just looks very awkward for him at times to keep hitting them and he shanks them allover the city when it gets to 4-4 , 5-5 30-30 type scenario's
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Re: What the fuck is going on with Federer's backhand?

It's erratic. It's always been fairly erratic. These days it's more erratic because either in his movement or his stroke production or shot choice, he's not quite as sharp as he was in 2004-2007 at the moment unless he gets right into the zone.

Much as I love Roger, people who think he has the best one handed backhand the game has seen are bonkers. When he's playing well he can hurt with it but at other times it can be a liability. There are several active players who have had less overall success than Roger who have better one handed backhands technically.
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His backhand has always been pathetic. Even Karlovic's is better.
No way, a few years ago it was decent for the tour, while it's never been better than Kuerten's or Nalby's (who is really inconsistent), he could make some jaw-dropping shots with that backhand. I remember watching a few of his matches in 2005/6 where it was just simply amazing
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His backhand was never good. The topspin backhand was always a loopy, short shot.

That's why leng jai has that list in his signature. That a bunch of morons can't realise that.
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looks a bit more dodgy thesedays doesnt it

i think its his crappier movement - he's not in as good a position as the last few years and his opponents are really abusing it more and more
spot on. i would just add that a 1 hander just has to be too precise. too many variable to account for and accordingly, less reliable than a 2 hander.

his greatest limitation off that wing is that he cannot really attack or finish the point. quite often he is forced to just get the ball back. on clay, he is being asked to hit that backhand repeatedly and its simply too difficult a stroke to hold up on sustained basis.

as you have suggested, his ridiculous movement gave him the time before to execute his options but now that movement is on the decline and it shows at the pump.

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His backhand was never good. The topspin backhand was always a loopy, short shot.

That's why leng jai has that list in his signature. That a bunch of morons can't realise that.
Not always a shitty shot, it used to be decent.
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Not always a shitty shot, it used to be decent.
Always broke under pressure.
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No way, a few years ago it was decent for the tour, while it's never been better than Kuerten's or Nalby's (who is really inconsistent), he could make some jaw-dropping shots with that backhand. I remember watching a few of his matches in 2005/6 where it was just simply amazing
Its a good passing shot but not so good rallying one. It also doesn't stand up to pressure.
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Its a good passing shot but not so good rallying one. It also doesn't stand up to pressure.
What Federer used to be better at doing than he is now is keeping the rallies on his terms and keeping the play onto his forehand much more.
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spot on. i would just add that a 1 hander just has to be too precise. too many variable to account for and accordingly, less reliable than a 2 hander.

his greatest limitation off that wing is that he cannot really attack or finish the point. quite often he is forced to just get the ball back. on clay, he is being asked to hit that backhand repeatedly and its simply too difficult a stroke to hold up on sustained basis.

as you have suggested, his ridiculous movement gave him the time before to execute his options but now that movement is on the decline and it shows at the pump.
But why can he not attack? I've seen other 1handers do it on amateur and professional level.
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Even you one-handed backhand haters or just general Federer haters cannot deny there was a point where his backhand was amazing (a few years ago!), what the hell has happened to it?
He's still able to execute amazing passing shots and amazing volleys but general the backhand shot is pathetic now, had it been stronger he would have beaten Nadal on clay soo many more times?

i guess you have learned nothing so far. what is it like to wander in a round, dark room with blindfolds on looking for a black cat that doesnt exist?

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What Federer used to be better at doing than he is now is keeping the rallies on his terms and keeping the play onto his forehand much more.
There was a time when Federer was less stubborn on court and used more his great slice.
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