Are you a married person? Do you know the tiniest thing about women?
No I am not married and neither do I intend on getting married. Besides what's knowing things about women got to do with tennis? I'm not against equal pay because of women getting equal pay, I am against it because it's quite evidently unfair.
1. "anywhere near the same revenue to the tour as the ATP does" - You do know there are two tours here, quite independent of each other, WTA and ATP. Whilst they have some common tournaments, besides Grand Slams, they are not forced to collaborate with each other. Each of them is free to give prize money in any way they want. It's their sponsors' money. They cannot bring the same revenue to the tour, because they each are a separate tour.
Exactly so why didn't the WTA let the free market decide the pay as opposed to making political decisions to alter the pay to make it on par with the ATP's? Why do you think women were paid lower in the past?
2. "Add in also that the quality is very bad compared to the ATP." - Although that is true, and even my wife cannot stand the quality of WTA, what does this have to do with prize money?
So you think it's alright to be paid not on the merit of your performance and quality? Mind = Blown. If equal pay is being given of the comparative basis that men are paid more than women then the quality and performance levels have to be taken into account between them. You can't say that it's fine to compare the two tours when the pay is involved but it's somehow not an issue to be discussed when comparing the quality and performance levels.
There are tons of Americans who will contest that soccer/european football is a crap sport that does not deserve the prizes it has compared to how unspectacular it is.
How is this in any way a comparison? European footballers are playing at an amazing level and taking football to a next level, likewise with the men's tennis, in that sense, yes they deserve to get paid what they do. The free market is also deciding their value, they're only getting paid what the fans want. This was also the case with the WTA before the feminists came in and said that they should be paid the same as men. Women's tennis isn't revolutionising the sport, the men's tour is, yet they are getting paid the same. This does not commute and is illogical.
It's a distorted opinion, because prize money is determined by the number of fans. Why do you think WTA has less fans than ATP. Just look at TF vs MTF. TF has 72000 users, whilst MTF has only 53000. Why is that?
Hasn't TF been around for longer? It's pretty much accepted that the ATP is more well known and attracts the majority of tennis fans. Have you seen eurosports atrocious numbers for the WTA?
3. Sadly, the worst argument on your table. "playing far less"
I don't like name calling but sadly here is where your argument goes full potato.
Playing far less means what exactly? Not 5-setters?
Cannot believe you dismissed that argument like this. Virtually every job in the world you are paid on an hour-by-hour basis. What makes tennis, specifically, women's tennis exempt from this basic business principle?
Why didn't you add the correct argument? They train just as hard, or even harder.
So? I'm pretty sure the disabled players train as hard as they can. Why don't they get paid the same [Their pay is laughable]. The same goes for boys and girls. They also try their best why don't they get paid the same? Where does this stop? What about an up coming tennis player who is predicted to win multiple majors and titles but in an accident becomes paralysed. Should we also pay that player for what his predicted earnings were? This is logically a very fallacious argument. Also both tours are paid to perform NOT payed on how much they train. This right here just about absolutely destroys this point.
They start with a significant physical disadvantage
This would be an apt argument if the women faced the men. They don't, so they start off on as much an equal ground as the men do with each other. I don't know what physical disadvantage they have since they're playing amongst each other.
yet there are many examples of women even stronger than most men in their game.
Evidence of this please. Besides the point still stands; 99% of the men on the tour are stronger than every woman on the WTA. So why single out the anomaly from the women's side?
They are just as talented.
Talented in standards used for women. Not anywhere near talented compared to the men. And this is the whole point; If you're going to compare the prize money of the two tours then you should also compare the talent BETWEEN the tours, not within the tours. Doing this you will see the men clearly are better. Hence you will find that there is no argument to pay the women the same as men since their tour is of a much lower quality.
It may seem like they play less, but they sure as hell don't train less.
It doesn't seem, THEY DO play less. Just compare the average match timings between the tours during any tournament. You will find the men's is higher. Since the tours aren't paid to train but to perform the training excuse is redundant.
And of course, there's the lowlifes that talk shit about them when they're little because they enjoy sport more. There's the constant societal "putting down" only because they are women.
''Oh the poor WTA wimminz, how can they handle the constant societal pressure while earning millions''
I don't think I've seen anyone criticise women for being sportswomen. Seriously I don't know where you got the idea from.
So yeah, here's a few logical arguments for you that are not from the year 1558. Is it unfair to men to pay them the same for training just as much, having similar fandom counts and two separate tours? Judge.
I just destroyed them, despite all of them being logically fallacious.
EDIT: Sadly, I didn't see your firefighter part when I wrote this. Have you tried seeing things from a different perspective? Women need to work harder to keep on par with men's level. It's natural for men to have better strength and agility. It's how humans are... My wife has been going to the gym all her life and I am still stronger than her without doing a single workout my entire life. Why is that?
This is marxism/socialism at its best then.