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Stefan Koubek makes Swiss cheese out of Ferrero in Gstaad 7/6 6/4

Unfortunately I didn't get to see this match, but it's an interesting result that Koubek beat Ferrero on clay. I wonder if Ferrero will blame the altitude on this loss, no I don't think so.

I wonder how much of it, was Koubek was playing very well and Ferrero lacking match practice.

Anyone who saw the match, it would be good to hear from.

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I definitely would have preferred Gaba winning as he needs the points much more, but Jan would have beaten him anyway. I expect Hajek to destroy Machado, like 6-1 6-2.
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Re: Stefan Koubek makes Swiss cheese out of Ferrero in Gstaad 7/6 6/4

I'd like to see Ferrero getting his act together this year, at least for the USO. But give him time, I'm sure it will come.
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Re: Stefan Koubek makes Swiss cheese out of Ferrero in Gstaad 7/6 6/4

I want Ferrero to do well, but it might be better for him to try and gain some form, not worry too much about the results this year, and then be ready for 2005.

On Nadal bumping him on the changeover, Rosol said: "It's ok, he wanted to take my concentration; I knew he would try something".


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I definitely would have preferred Gaba winning as he needs the points much more, but Jan would have beaten him anyway. I expect Hajek to destroy Machado, like 6-1 6-2.
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I want Ferrero to do well, but it might be better for him to try and gain some form, not worry too much about the results this year, and then be ready for 2005.
Yeah, thats probably right- too bad he was injured during the clay season- I think he would have put Coria firmly in his place.
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Re: Stefan Koubek makes Swiss cheese out of Ferrero in Gstaad 7/6 6/4

I want to know what's happened too, the scoreline looks strange. Ferrero was leading in the 1st set, broke koubek in the 5th game and held his games easily. And it seems that he's suddenly off his game when serving for the set at *5-4. Koubek broke back and held easily to lead 6-5, and then everything is tough for Ferrero.

I wonder if it's Koubek who started his countattack in time and strongly, or it's Ferrero who just lost his game suddenly?

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Re: Stefan Koubek makes Swiss cheese out of Ferrero in Gstaad 7/6 6/4

Bad that Ferrero lost. Last year, it was like he was a player who did'nt lost in the first round of any tournament he entered. But isn't it hard to come back to top 5?

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Yeah, thats probably right- too bad he was injured during the clay season- I think he would have put Coria firmly in his place.
Don't worry about Coria put in his place this year, that happened on the biggest stage.

Strange as it may seem, this might not be a bad thing for Ferrero actually, to have not a great year, he shouldn't complain about having to play too many matches. He needs to get his body right, and once he has that, the results will take care of themselves.

On Nadal bumping him on the changeover, Rosol said: "It's ok, he wanted to take my concentration; I knew he would try something".


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I definitely would have preferred Gaba winning as he needs the points much more, but Jan would have beaten him anyway. I expect Hajek to destroy Machado, like 6-1 6-2.
Machado wins 6-2 6-1
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Strange as it may seem, this might not be a bad thing for Ferrero actually, to have not a great year, he shouldn't complain about having to play too many matches. He needs to get his body right, and once he has that, the results will take care of themselves.
And his head as well. After losing at Wimbledon, he said he did'nt had the confidence to play. Wonder what he had said after this loss?

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Don't worry about Coria put in his place this year, that happened on the biggest stage.
Don't get me wrong, its not that have anything against Coria (except for his occassionaly on court antics which are sometimes annoying) but I was curious to see how Ferrero would handle defending a grand slam crown- a fully fit Ferrero that is. And I just think that his extra weight of shot and consistency of it would have worn Coria out.

People were talking so much about Ferrero and Coria being the two most dominant players on clay I would have liked to see them play in the FO final now that Coria has become a more established member of the top 10.

Even though there are a lot of people who don't like Guillermo because of the way he questions line calls and he is not the most popular player in the locker room, I still couldn't help feeling sorry for him after the FO and the way he choked back the tears during the presentation ceremony.
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Re: Stefan Koubek makes Swiss cheese out of Ferrero in Gstaad 7/6 6/4

RonE, this is about Ferrero's problems at the moment and this particular match. Coria has been discussed at length and elsewhere and I am not going to do it here.

On Nadal bumping him on the changeover, Rosol said: "It's ok, he wanted to take my concentration; I knew he would try something".


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I definitely would have preferred Gaba winning as he needs the points much more, but Jan would have beaten him anyway. I expect Hajek to destroy Machado, like 6-1 6-2.
Machado wins 6-2 6-1
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RonE, this is about Ferrero's problems at the moment and this particular match. Coria has been discussed at length and elsewhere and I am not going to do it here.
Fair enough, just making a point.

But I think it is right what you said, Juan-Carlos just needs time to get back into shape and once he does and wins a couple of tough matches I think that will sort out his head and enable him to play the kind of tennis that we saw last year destroy Agassi in the USO.
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Re: Stefan Koubek makes Swiss cheese out of Ferrero in Gstaad 7/6 6/4

seriously i feel juanqui should just try his best for the olympics, davis cup and if possible USO....otherwise his year is almost finish....just concentrate on being fully fir again...at least in 2005 he wouldn't have much to lose

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Fair enough, just making a point.

But I think it is right what you said, Juan-Carlos just needs time to get back into shape and once he does and wins a couple of tough matches I think that will sort out his head and enable him to play the kind of tennis that we saw last year destroy Agassi in the USO.
Cool cool I was just a bit short, when you see some of the Coria trolls here, then all this stuff that goes with it. No, I didn't feel sorry for him, whose fault was it that he cramped, enough of that.

Ferrero should really think about 2005. I mean this year his goals would be the Olympics, it would be unlikely that he makes the US Open final this year, though it wouldn't be a bad thing and the Davis Cup. Then again he plays plenty of events as well, he could improve some more physically and have a stronger strength and endurance base, which will help him.

On Nadal bumping him on the changeover, Rosol said: "It's ok, he wanted to take my concentration; I knew he would try something".


Wilander on Dimitrov - "He has mind set on imitating Federer and yes it looks good. But he has no idea what to do on the court".

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Re: Stefan Koubek makes Swiss cheese out of Ferrero in Gstaad 7/6 6/4

Seeing as he has a lot of points to defend having reached the Open final last year and winning TMS Madrid, there is a chance at the end of the year that he might be out of the top 10 and at the beginning of 2005 he will be a dangerous floater in tournaments much the way Safin is now- which might inspire him to make his comeback.
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Re: Stefan Koubek makes Swiss cheese out of Ferrero in Gstaad 7/6 6/4

ferrero in my opinion is the best player ever, and i hate seeing him like this. He needs to rest, but he's playing in the mercedes cup in less than a week, so much for a rest. But i think he will do extremely well next year though.

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