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Is there anyone else that is capable of beating #1 and 2 on grass?

For the last 2 years, Roger and Andy seems to be alone out there. Andy's losses both came from Roger, and Roger hasn't lost one match for the last 2 years. Is there anyone else that can realistically beat them on grass?

I know Henman is good on grass, but he hasn't even been able to get far enough to play these 2 guys.
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Re: Is there anyone else that is capable of beating #1 and 2 on grass?

@@ Pretty obvious answer~~ Lleyton Hewitt!!!

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...--->> In 2004 he made SF at Queens(lost to Roddick) & QF at Wimbledon(lost to Federer)!

**Rocky Llegs is right up there, in fact I think he deserves to be 2nd behind Federer in terms of grass court pedigree, therefore slightly better than Roddick! But I don't care if you disagree>_<.
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Re: Is there anyone else that is capable of beating #1 and 2 on grass?

Yes - I agree - Lleyton could beat either of them on grass, and Tim has a winning record over Federer on all surfaces. And Lleyton definately has a better pedigree than Roddick on grass.

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Re: Is there anyone else that is capable of beating #1 and 2 on grass?

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@@ Pretty obvious answer~~ Lleyton Hewitt!!!

Queens Champion(Grass)^2000, 01, 02
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...--->> In 2004 he made SF at Queens(lost to Roddick) & QF at Wimbledon(lost to Federer)!

**Rocky Llegs is right up there, in fact I think he deserves to be 2nd behind Federer in terms of grass court pedigree, therefore slightly better than Roddick! But I don't care if you disagree>_<.
If you don't take into account recent trend, yes.
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Re: Is there anyone else that is capable of beating #1 and 2 on grass?

Lleyton

and Henman over Roddick
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Re: Is there anyone else that is capable of beating #1 and 2 on grass?

Give Ancic some more time and he'll be able to compete with the best on grass. Mark P on his day can still be dangerous on the surface.

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Re: Is there anyone else that is capable of beating #1 and 2 on grass?

Henman, Hewitt, Philippoussis, Ancic and also I think perhaps Karlovic if he develops more of his game can be a real threat on grass. I would have also said Andre of three-four years ago but his reflexes are not what they used to be so I don't think he's a serious threat anymore (though I hope he proves me wrong).
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Re: Is there anyone else that is capable of beating #1 and 2 on grass?

Hewitt
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Re: Is there anyone else that is capable of beating #1 and 2 on grass?

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Re: Is there anyone else that is capable of beating #1 and 2 on grass?

maybe even nadal in years to come

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Re: Is there anyone else that is capable of beating #1 and 2 on grass?

i would say ferrero, bcoz he's just the best, but this year i really don't have that much faith in him. But i think ramirez-hidalgo will be very very good with experience

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Fernando Gonzalez.

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Re: Is there anyone else that is capable of beating #1 and 2 on grass?

Well, Roddick got to the Wimbys final without playing anyone in the top-20........

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Re: Is there anyone else that is capable of beating #1 and 2 on grass?

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Well, Roddick got to the Wimbys final without playing anyone in the top-20........
Schalken was seeded inside the top 20 and is certainly a top 20 player on grass. Other than that, it's not his fault the draw cleared out for him

Plus, he beat Hewitt, Srichaphan, and Grosjean all at Queens, all very good top 20 grass players and all in straight sets and all who were in good form there.

That said, of course Andy and Roger can both be beaten on grass. Anyone can be beaten on any given day.

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Re: Is there anyone else that is capable of beating #1 and 2 on grass?

Any big server could beat them on a good day and with some luck in the tiebreaks
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