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Andy: Back to the gym

You could see that Andy was getting worn out by the end of the fourth set, playing really physically while Roger looked like he had yet to break a sweat.

They say Andy lost 10 pounds this year, and I'm wondering what going to the gym would do anything more for him?

What do you guys think?

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Re: Andy: Back to the gym

It wasn't his fitness level that made him "tired" during the end, playing Federer takes A LOT out of you mentally, especially when you're winning and keeping the score close. Andy's prob one of the most fittest players there is, when was the last time he retired from a match (he retired vs fish in 03 but that was because he rolled his ankle, not because he was infit and had cramps or something). and also, Andy's game takes more out of him than Roger's its just plain easy to see.

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Re: Andy: Back to the gym

Fitness certainly seemed to play a part in the contest; Roddick's level of intensity was markedly lower in the 2nd,3rd and 4th sets. It's especially surprising given the surface, his relatively easy route to the final and because his fitness level was sufficient for him to bag two TMSs back-to-back and the US Open last year. But here he just couldn't cut it when it most mattered, but a big part of that was also mental.
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You could see that Andy was getting worn out by the end of the fourth set, playing really physically while Roger looked like he had yet to break a sweat.

They say Andy lost 10 pounds this year, and I'm what going to the gym would do anything more for him?

What do you guys think?
Agredd, he was panting out there, especailly AFTER the sixth game of the 4th set--he promtly lost his serve the next game. Yep, and Fed didn't break a sweat. Andy is used to short matches and points. But dont ask Naldo, he/she has pictures of Andy in her closet and bedroom......
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Agredd, he was panting out there, especailly AFTER the sixth game of the 4th set--he promtly lost his serve the next game. Yep, and Fed didn't break a sweat. Andy is used to short matches and points. But dont ask Naldo, he/she has pictures of Andy in her closet and bedroom......
:retard: yes i have andy plastered all over my wall :retard:

anyways I still thinkg it was more of a mental letdown that affected his game towards the end than fitness level.

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Re: Andy: Back to the gym

I agree with Naldo.

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Re: Andy: Back to the gym

I dont think Andy is one of the fittest players out there, but, I do think his fitness was not related to the outcome of the match.
I think it was a mental letdown, as Naldo said.

I miss: Ivan Lendl, Korda, Novak, Bruguera, Rios, Kucera, Courier, Mantilla, Costa, Santoro and Ferreira.

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Re: Andy: Back to the gym

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It wasn't his fitness level that made him "tired" during the end, playing Federer takes A LOT out of you mentally, especially when you're winning and keeping the score close. Andy's prob one of the most fittest players there is, when was the last time he retired from a match (he retired vs fish in 03 but that was because he rolled his ankle, not because he was infit and had cramps or something). and also, Andy's game takes more out of him than Roger's its just plain easy to see.
Yes, I know he's one of the top fit guys. I'm just wondering when he says "I need to go back to the gym", how that will help?
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Re: Andy: Back to the gym

well i was kinda making a co-relation to andy having so few retirement losses and such. ok maybe he's not one of the fittest out there, but he isn't a Dent out there

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how long until Brad brings on Gil Reyes to Andy's camp (after Agassi retires, of course )?
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Re: Andy: Back to the gym

it's kinda like a metaphor, he didn't really mean go back to the gym and lift weights and such, going "back to the gym" means going back to improve your game so you will be better prepared .

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Re: Andy: Back to the gym

Andy gave it all he had in the first set so it is no surprise that for the remainder of the match he wouldnt be able to keep up the monster serving/ blazing winners.

How could fitness come into it? It was a 4 set match and they had 2 rain breaks!
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Re: Andy: Back to the gym

In terms of tiredness when Fed was down a break in the 3rd before the last rain delay, I actually thought he was the more tired of the two (mentally that is). I think that rain break really helped him to regroup and he came out charging after that to break Roddick right back.

I'm just thinking- if it wasn't for that rain delay in the 3rd set, the outcome may have been quite different.
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Re: Andy: Back to the gym

He came out like the way Lindsay came out in the SFs against Sharapova. Unfortunately, its very hard to keep the level, I guess.
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Re: Andy: Back to the gym

ack, he came back better than Lindsay did in that final set. Lindsay totally lost all her power and weight in her shots when there was that rain delay in the 2nd set.

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