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Is Båstad, the best non TMS event 2004 in respect to player depth ?

It's not often that I agree with tournament promoters, but this is an outstanding field, especially since some posters consider these clay events after the French Open as shitty.

Here is the committment list.
http://www.swedishopen.org/default.asp?id=30

This was from the tournament site. I had to adjust the fact that Gaudio is the French Open champion and they missed one or two things. They are very happy with the line up, the article in Swedish then in English.

http://www.swedishopen.org/default....sid=241&start=0

Bättre och bättre i Båstad

I veckan gick anmälningstiden ut och årets startfält är starkare än hos de flesta ATP-turneringarna.

Målsättningen att bli en av världens fem starkaste grusturneringar är på väg att infrias.

- Rankinggränsen, den så kallade ”cut-offen”, för att vara direktkvalificerad ligger på 60. Frånsett Franska Öppna och Mastersturneringarna har ingen grustävling haft så låg gräns i år, säger en stolt turneringschef, Thomas Wallén.

Barcelonaturneringen som allmänt anses vara den femste största grusturneringen hade en kvalificeringsgräns på 67 för deras 23 bästa spelare vid anmälningstidens utgång. Gstaad som konkurrerar med Båstad har en ”cut-off” på 95.

2002 års Båstadvinnare, världstvåan Carlos Moya, kommer att bli toppseedad i Synsam Swedish Open. Konkurrensen kommer b.la ifrån sex ATP-vinnare i år:

Gaston Gaudio – Roland Garros mästaren
Carlos Moya- Romamästaren
Dominik Hrbaty - Världsåttan med tre ATP-titlar 2004
Tommy Robredo - Barcelonavinnaren
Juan-Ignacio Chela - Vinnaren i Estoril
Fernando Verdasco - Valenciamästaren
Filippo Volandri - Italiens etta som vann grusgenrepet i St Pölten
Nikolay Davydenko - segrare i München

Gruseliten talar i allmänhet spanska. World team Cup i Düsseldorf vanns av Chile för andra året i följd. Såväl Fernando Gonzalez som Nicolas Massu spelar Synsam Swedish Open 3-11 juli. Argentinas laguppställning kompletteras av fjolåtsmästaren Mariano Zabaleta, Agustin Calleri - finalist i Brasiliens ATP och Gaston Gaudio som var 2:a i Barcelona. Världens ledande grusnation, Spanien, förser också tävlingen med Dubai-finalisten Feliciano Lopez, Alberto Martin och Rafael Nadal.

- Vi är mycket glada att åter få välkomna Nadal som blev mycket populär hos oss ifjol. I mars slog han världsettan Federer men det stora genombrottet kom av sig på grund av en skada. Han är på banan igen strax innan Båstad och blir livsfarlig i år, säger Thomas Wallén.

Memphis-vinnaren Joachim Johansson, Marseille-finalisten Robin Söderling, Jonas Björkman och Thomas Johansson som fått ett Wild Card försvarar de blågula färgerna.


Better and better in Båstad

During the week the announcement went out and this years starting field is stronger than most of the ATP tournaments.

The goal to be one of the five worlds best clay tournaments is on the way to be fulfiled.

The ranking border, the so-called cut off for direct qualification is 60. Apart from the French Open and the Masters Series no claycourt tournament has such a low cut off, said a proud tournament chief Thomas Wallén.

The tournament in Barcelona, which is known as the 5th best claycourt tournament has a cut off of 67 for their 23 best players, by the time announcements went out. Gstaad which competes with Båstad, has a 'cut off" of 95

The 2002 Båstad winner, Carlos Moya will play and the be the top seed in the Synsam Swedish Open. The competition includes eight ATP title winners this year.

Gaston Gaudio- French Open champion
Carlos Moya- winner of 3 titles including Rome
Dominik Hrbaty- Number 8 on the champions race with 3 titles
Fernando Gonzalez- Vina Del Mar winner
Tommy Robredo - Barcelona winner
Fernando Verdasco- Valencia winner
Fillipo Volandri- St Pölten
Nikolay Davydenko - Munich

The elite claycourters are generally Spanish speakers. The Chilean team who won the World Team Cup in Dusseldorf twice in a row, will have Fernando Gonzalez and Nicolas Massu playing in Båstad. The Argentines will have last years winner Mariano Zabaleta, Agustin Calleri finalist in Brazil and Gaston Gaudio runner up in Barcelona and winner of the French Open. The worlds leading clay nation Spain will also have the Dubai finalist Feliciano Lopez, Alberto Martin and Rafael Nadal

We are very glad to welcome back Nadal who became very popular here last year. In March he beat the world number 1 Federer, but the big breakthrough was held back because of injury. He is on court again just before Båstad and will be highly dangerous this year, says Thomas Wallén.

Memphis winner Joachim Johansson, Marseille-finalist Robin Söderling, Jonas Björkman and Thomas Johansson who will get a Wild Card to fly the blue and gold colours.

On Nadal bumping him on the changeover, Rosol said: "It's ok, he wanted to take my concentration; I knew he would try something".


Wilander on Dimitrov - "He has mind set on imitating Federer and yes it looks good. But he has no idea what to do on the court".

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I definitely would have preferred Gaba winning as he needs the points much more, but Jan would have beaten him anyway. I expect Hajek to destroy Machado, like 6-1 6-2.
Machado wins 6-2 6-1

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Re: Is Båstad The best non TMS event of the year ?

Rotterdam is better imo

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Re: Is Båstad The best non TMS event of the year ?

I was about to say that, Ilhame.. This tournament is good, but there are betters tournaments out there. I think Gstaad might have a better field too, though I am not sure.

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Re: Is Båstad The best non TMS event of the year ?

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Rotterdam is better imo
Does Rotterdam have a cut off ranking of 60 for the main draw? I think it would be very close, I would rather the outdoor venues actually, then again that is a personal thing.

On Nadal bumping him on the changeover, Rosol said: "It's ok, he wanted to take my concentration; I knew he would try something".


Wilander on Dimitrov - "He has mind set on imitating Federer and yes it looks good. But he has no idea what to do on the court".

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I definitely would have preferred Gaba winning as he needs the points much more, but Jan would have beaten him anyway. I expect Hajek to destroy Machado, like 6-1 6-2.
Machado wins 6-2 6-1
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Re: Is Båstad, the best non TMS event 2004 in respect to player depth ?

Rotterdam had Ferrero, Federer, Schuettler and Hewitt as the big names and I think the cut off was around 50 if I remember correctly.

For a non-TMS claycourt tournament it still comes AFTER Barcelona imo.

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Re: Is Båstad The best non TMS event of the year ?

> DAVYDENKO, Ryssland
> YOUZHNY, Moskva

I don't know Swedish, but I guess Moskva means Moscow and Ryssland means Russia. Right?

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Re: Is Båstad, the best non TMS event 2004 in respect to player depth ?

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Does Rotterdam have a cut off ranking of 60 for the main draw? I think it would be very close, I would rather the outdoor venues actually, then again that is a personal thing.
Rotterdam's cut-off is usually inbetween 45-55. If it's higher than 60, than it's due to cancellations (which Bastad is likely to face).

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Is the draw size the same between Basta(r)d and Rotterdam?
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Re: Is Båstad, the best non TMS event 2004 in respect to player depth ?

The tournament has definitely come a long way since the glory of days of such Båstad champions like Tomas Carbonell and Bernd Karbacher. It's good that they have 8 current title holders, a Slam and a TMS champion playing there, then again there is great scenery as well, not just talking about landscape either.

I am not sure if it's the best, maybe the best non TMS/Slam clay event with Barcelona, maybe some of the indoor events at the end of the year have higher cut off rankings for the main draw.
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I would put Barcelona in there, but if your talking about just International Series (no-gold) it would be Halle or Queen's Club
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Maybe all the South Americans are going to hang out on the beach there, and chase the girls and play some tennis as well. This can't be considered a bad thing actually, so yes Båstad is high quality tournament, it would have to be if Fino Meligieni has won it before.
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@@ Normally Sydney IS~ has one of the strongest fields.

Sydney 2003: Federer, Ferrero, Roddick, Safin, Srichaphan, Shuettler, Grosjean...
2004: Ferrero, Moya, Hewitt, Philippoussis, Shrichaphan, Shuettler, Masu...

^^The "cut-off" is usually around #55!
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Is the draw size the same between Basta(r)d and Rotterdam?
They are both 32 player draws.
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> DAVYDENKO, Ryssland
> YOUZHNY, Moskva

I don't know Swedish, but I guess Moskva means Moscow and Ryssland means Russia. Right?

Yes that's right.
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Rotterdam had Ferrero, Federer, Schuettler and Hewitt as the big names and I think the cut off was around 50 if I remember correctly.

For a non-TMS claycourt tournament it still comes AFTER Barcelona imo.
Barcelona has been consistently the 5th best clay event and in recent times probably harder to win than Monte Carlo or Hamburg TMS, but Båstad, which has to compete with Gstaad, and is usually the poorer one has done very well this year, with this field and was said in the article at the same point the cutoff point was better than Barcelona this year.

With Rotterdam, the timing of the event helps get those bigger players, plus those guys would never play in Båstad anyway, Federer can't because he is Gstaad lol ( never won it though) and also they can offer bigger money in Rotterdam, than they can in Båstad.

It seems though the subject title is misleading, Båstad did co-win International Series event of 2003 and unlike Barcelona it's not an International Series gold event.
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