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Rafa-Djoko-Fed = Salieri-Mozart-Beethoven??

OK, everyone has got his own dumb thread already, so I think it's my turn...

My point is, it's amazing but even when Nadal is a great player who will be remembered as one of the greatest players in our time, he probably won't have an Era, a distinction that we could consider even more important that the "Legend" one (There are more legends than Era's masters).

Thinking about that I remembered the Salieri story, a great clasical compositor (who even "schooled" Mozart and Beethoven at a time, in his Academy) that was condemned to never get the recognition he deserved, just because of the Eras in which he performed. There was a great rivalry between Salieri and Mozart, but Mozart was always best valued by the people. There's even a theory about Salieri poisoning Mozart and causing his death, but that is considered more a myth than a reality. Ah! Mozart wanted to be the Music Professor of the Württemberg princess, but Salieri got that job instead of him. French Open anyone?

Now that Federer is slowly diminishing his level, we could think that the Nadal Era is coming soon. But, since Djokovic appeared from nowhere and started winning everything in hard courts, Nadal could esaily lose his "Era" too. That made me think about Beethoven, who became the best clasical musician a few years after Mozart's death, leaving Salieri in the shadow... again.

OK, that was my first great "sense-free" thread in GM, I hope you enjoy it. Any thoughts?

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Re: Rafa-Djoko-Fed = Salieri-Mozart-Beethoven??

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OK, everyone has got his own dumb thread already, so I think it's my turn...

My point is, it's amazing but even when Nadal is a great player who will be remembered as one of the greatest players in our time, he probably won't have an Era, a distinction that we could consider even more important that the "Legend" one (There are more legends than Era's masters).

Thinking about that I remembered the Salieri story, a great clasical compositor (who even "schooled" Mozart and Beethoven at a time, in his Academy) that was condemned to never get the recognition he deserved, just because of the Eras in which he performed. There was a great rivalry between Salieri and Mozart, but Mozart was always best valued by the people. There's even a theory about Salieri poisoning Mozart and causing his death, but that is considered more a myth than a reality. Ah! Mozart wanted to be the Music Professor of the Württemberg princess, but Salieri got that job instead of him. French Open anyone?

Now that Federer is slowly diminishing his level, we could think that the Nadal Era is coming soon. But, since Djokovic appeared from nowhere and started winning everything in hard courts, Nadal could esaily lose his "Era" too. That made me think about Beethoven, who became the best clasical musician a few years after Mozart's death, leaving Salieri in the shadow... again.

OK, that was my first great "sense-free" thread in GM, I hope you enjoy it. Any thoughts?
Hehe. I thought of the Mozart-Djokovic analogy before. But in that case Federer was Salieri.

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You can bet Djokovic's mom just screamed "Another king is dead" right about now - in the remotest corner - of her bathroom - followed by "The other one is buried." (from tennisplanet.me, following Madrid 2011 Djokovic d. Nadal 7-5 6-4)
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Re: Rafa-Djoko-Fed = Salieri-Mozart-Beethoven??

well I guess I'm not the only one. Federer also schooled Djokovic until last year, just like Salieri used to school Mozart when he was young

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Salieri-Mozart rivalry = myth, according to the biographers.
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Rafa looks more like Wagner, heavy pounding sounds and so on

But he's a Spaniard, so SKA-P fits better

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Salieri is the oldest of the three.

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The "THREE AMIGOS", or the new three Tenors, or the three Mosqueteers ... or the three piglets...
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Good old times of classical music, when music mattered and when being a 'musical master' and a star was one and the same

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Re: Rafa-Djoko-Fed = Salieri-Mozart-Beethoven??

Federer = Graf

Djokovic = Seles

Nadal = Sanchez-Vicario
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Federer = Graf

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Yes, I had stated that before as well. Djokovic = Seles without any doubt. And Federer = Graf likewise. Let's just hope Djokovic doesn't get a Gunther Parche.

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Re: Rafa-Djoko-Fed = Salieri-Mozart-Beethoven??

I have thought of Federer as Mozartian and Nadal as Beethovenian, but that relates more to style.

I've probably thought too much about this already.

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no Salieri in this group.
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Good old times of classical music, when music mattered and when being a 'musical master' and a star was one and the same
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