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View Poll Results: Do you agree with Pete?
No. I think Federer's decline is a fact and he's not winning any major in the future. 39 17.57%
I kinda agree... He's in a great moment, but the other 2 guys are too good. No more slams for Feddy 45 20.27%
I totally agree. Fed's still playing great tennis and he'll probably win another major 105 47.30%
Hello. I'm Rod Laver and my records are intact. Suck it losers. 33 14.86%
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Re: A Post and Some Figures Worthy of its Own Thread - Sharing is Caring Guys!

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Roger is just 26. There is no magical age when a top tennis players suddenly loses his effectiveness. Lendl finally became No. 1 at age 25 and remained No. 1 for four of the five years until he was 29 years old. The age of the No. 1 tennis player has been going up and down over the last 40 years. In 1968, Laver was 31 years; 1974, Connor 22 yrs; 1975, Ashe 32 yrs; 1977, Borg 21 yrs; 1982, Connors 30 yrs; 1987, Lendl 27 yrs (in 1989, Lendl was 29 yrs; 1993, Sampras 22 yrs; 1998, Sampras: 28 yrs; 1999, Agassi 29 yrs; 2001, Hewitt 20 yrs; 2007, Federer 26 yrs. There is not much age difference between 29-year Agassi in 1999 and 30-year Laver in 1968, or 20-year Hewitt in 2001 and 21-year Borg in 1977.
Nothing in the original post by TonyNathan other than telling that #1 players could come back anytime. But how quickly? In one year tour, next one, or nothing at all? The post already told us the examples.

While Fed is fighting through his fitness and trying to gain more trophy this year, someone can also be better and take his crown in the end. Just like Lendl when he slipped to No. 2 in 1988. If Fed's fall is too low, than no way back for him. Anyway he's still on top, but the young gunners seem to be more deadly right now and he's been suffering in many departments.
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I mean, the history you gave us here has no GUARANTEE for Roger.
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People are offended by facts
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Re: My career is not in decline, says Federer

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Lol, he's got to be the first player in history who can lose 2 matches in a row, one a grandslam semi-final, and have people screaming that his career is over.



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This post was found in the guestbook of Rogerfederer.com. and I think it is a very informed post. Of course, all arguements are debatable. But me being not the most eloquent and informed person, i thought i'll share these two posts with everyone.

Probably should post this in one of those million 'roger demise' threads, but i do think that this is worthy of its own thread. Mods might disagree though.

but yeah, hope you guys think it's a good read. and feel free to disagree with it...just don't violently trash this thread.
Thanks so much for posting, really great stuff

Are there any other pearls of wisdom from our neutral friends at rogerfederer.com?
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Thanks so much for posting, really great stuff

Are there any other pearls of wisdom from our neutral friends at rogerfederer.com?
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Federer, less weight of shot?

Hmm it seems that Fed's weight of shot is not that high as it used to be. Just watching the first half of the year, other younger guys are stronger and more powerful. Ultimately, Fed can be overpowered now. He can't rely on his FH all the time. And he's not in his 21-24yr old "prime" when he was truly supreme and powerful.

One would think that since Fed was "bullied" by Nadal on clay, maybe he can be "Bullied" on a slow grass surface also? Nadal may finally be closing the gap(but i expect Nadal to struggle on hard courts).

Also look at the Monfils match, he was literally overpowering fed for 3 sets. Monfils hopefully(if he keeps his brain) will use this as an inspiration as he is certainly top 10 if he can step up to the baseline(not 2 metres behind!)
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Federer is becoming weak because of old age. By the US Open he will be playing with a walking stick if he hasn't retired from tennis already.

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Federer is so weak, he is getting overpowered by the Santoros and Volandris of the world.

He will be able to claim his pension soon.

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Re: Federer, less weight of shot?

In the occasional match he'll hit his FH well like in previous years.

But generally, his FH isn't a dominating shot anymore. Hasn't been since Wimbledon last year. His serve has improved though.

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So weak he hit a 100+ mph forehand recently.

Don't worry, grass season is here. Federer will suddenly find the ability to hit winners from all over the court again.
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its sad to hear that 26 years old is already old, ai, after 4 years, rafa will become an old man too

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Forehand still has it.

Backhand is weak and crap.

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its sad to hear that 26 years old is already old, ai, after 4 years, rafa will become an old man too
By then Roger will be on his pension and playing a with a walking frame.

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Hmm it seems that Fed's weight of shot is not that high as it used to be. Just watching the first half of the year, other younger guys are stronger and more powerful. Ultimately, Fed can be overpowered now. He can't rely on his FH all the time. And he's not in his 21-24yr old "prime" when he was truly supreme and powerful.

One would think that since Fed was "bullied" by Nadal on clay, maybe he can be "Bullied" on a slow grass surface also? Nadal may finally be closing the gap(but i expect Nadal to struggle on hard courts).

Also look at the Monfils match, he was literally overpowering fed for 3 sets. Monfils hopefully(if he keeps his brain) will use this as an inspiration as he is certainly top 10 if he can step up to the baseline(not 2 metres behind!)
Look, Federer is an old fart. I noticed liver spots on his hand when I was checking out his forehand grip.
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