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View Poll Results: Do you agree with Pete?
No. I think Federer's decline is a fact and he's not winning any major in the future. 39 17.57%
I kinda agree... He's in a great moment, but the other 2 guys are too good. No more slams for Feddy 45 20.27%
I totally agree. Fed's still playing great tennis and he'll probably win another major 105 47.30%
Hello. I'm Rod Laver and my records are intact. Suck it losers. 33 14.86%
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post #136 of 1591 (permalink) Old 10-18-2008, 03:00 PM
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So everybody right now is standing on the cliff... watching the storm slowly wearing away... sunlight is finally shining through after all these years... It is time to go home and welcome a new era of peace.
The total, utter domination is over, but it's okay... He will still be dominant at certain tournaments, like at the USO. He's playing a lot better right now than he did in the first half of the year, he won the US Open, what's not to like right now? Yeah, he lost to a great player today, so what? Actually i would have been worried if he plays Nadal sunday, those losses against him did not do anything good to his brain. Anyway, let's win Basel and the TMC Roger! Or at least one of them. (maybe theeeeee... second? ) Alleeeeez!
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Fact is Federer will be the favorite in 3 out of 4 slams next year and the tmc this year. Not overwhelming favorite, but still the favorite so I can only see a slowly changing era and not the end of any era.
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Do you think Federer gives a fuck about TMS tournaments anymore?
No, but I think he has enough pride to not want to lose in them.

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I think this match is the real end of the Federer era.
Wimbledon final was just the switch between him and Nadal, but this match showed that FEDERER is vulnerable on hard courts when he plays strong baseliners that are also very good servers that can play consistently his backhand.

With Nadal, Murray and maybe A reloaded 2009-Djokovic having the formula, we can imagine Federer winning more tourneys , maybe 1 or 2 GSs, but I cannot imagine him regaining world no.1 position.

Anyway, if Murray can keep the rhytm he will replace Nadal somewhere in the future, but he has to be able to gain more and more consistency.

Murray reminds me of Federer in 2003.

He has the tools + a double handed backhand.

We will see, but, I repeat, Federer era ends clearly today.
Don't believe this. Murray also beat Federer on hard courts two years ago at Cincinnati. Not to mention Federer recently beat Murray for at the US Open final. Federer's competition is much more difficult than it was two or three years ago. Three years ago he was owning Roddick and Hewitt. Now he has to play against younger players who don't have a 2-15 record against him.
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federer is getting old? plus theyre probably more used to his game now, he needs to start volleying a lot more

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Fact is Federer will be the favorite in 3 out of 4 slams next year and the tmc this year. Not overwhelming favorite, but still the favorite so I can only see a slowly changing era and not the end of any era.
I agree with you, I don't believe Roger would ever win Roland Garros, but at the other 3 tournaments he's the fave one, it all depends on the form he is in and how the Djoker, Muzza and Del Potro among others are for these

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Sure he may not have had a year like the ones in the past but he still walked away with a US Open title and several other small tournaments. I can imagine that the entire top 100 players (except Nadal and Djokovic)would love tohave had the year Federer has had. If he had not won the US Open this year I would imagine the critics would have pounced even more than they have. Guarantee Roger will win AT LEAST two slams in 2009
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Sure he may not have had a year like the ones in the past but he still walked away with a US Open title and several other small tournaments. I can imagine that the entire top 100 players (except Nadal and Djokovic)would love tohave had the year Federer has had. If he had not won the US Open this year I would imagine the critics would have pounced even more than they have. Guarantee Roger will win AT LEAST two slams in 2009
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He may start losing to players in 3 set matches that he never did before, but I still think when it comes to best out of 5 set/Grand Slams, Roger still has the mental advantage/experience to prevail over those who defeat him in regular tour tournaments.
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I agree with you, I don't believe Roger would ever win Roland Garros, but at the other 3 tournaments he's the fave one, it all depends on the form he is in and how the Djoker, Muzza and Del Potro among others are for these
There is still a slight chance that Roger could win the French. Nadal, is going to have to be injured for that to happen though.
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Federer's slow decline

Remember when he was utterly invincible, the most perfect tennis player ever back around February 2007?

* Then he shows up at Indian Wells on a 41 match winning streak and inexplicably loses to Canas in 2 sets. Ok, it was a blister, so that explained it...

* Then he shows up at Miami and is very shaky to get to R4 and loses again to Canas, blowing a lead in the 3rd set. Both forehand/backhand misfiring.

* Loses badly to Nadal in Monte Carlo and then loses to Volandri in Rome.

* Beats Nadal in Hamburg and temporarily we all think Federer is back in full form.

* Beats Nadal in Wimbledon, but backhand looks shaky, bailed out by superhuman serving(21 aces)

* Loses to Djokovic in Montreal, after blowing 6 set points

* Wins Cincinatti but groundstrokes look terrible

* Wins US Open, but backhand continues to look very vulnerable, especially topspin drive backhand is seriously misfiring

* Loses Madrid final to Nalbandian when his forehand starts misfiring badly again

* Wins TMC with pretty good overall form, Fed fans think the worst is over and TMF is back

* Mono strikes in December 2007, destroys Federer's winter training

* Plays horrible tennis from Australia all the way to French Open, just terrible all around

* Wins Halle showing great form, never broken once

* Looks pretty shaky getting to Wimbledon final in straight sets(but lots of shanking) and loses memorable final to Nadal in darkness

* Continues horrid, listless play through Olympics

* Wins US Open in shakiest form ever, somehow forehand was firing again in the semis/final

* terrible indoor season, back injury

* Pretty good run to AO final, backhand looking good again but Nadal dismantles Federer again in 5 sets, questions begin again

* Horrific play in IW/Miami/Monte Carlo/Rome, Shankerific

* Wins Madrid Open against Nadal showing excellent form the last few matches

* Currently in FO final in shakiest slam form ever

* ????

So the big question is what happened between Feb 07 and spring 07 that made Federer descend from JesusFed to NormalFed? That was the single biggest decline IMHO.
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federer is the goat.
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Remember when he was utterly invincible, the most perfect tennis player ever back around February 2007?

* Then he shows up at Indian Wells on a 41 match winning streak and inexplicably loses to Canas in 2 sets. Ok, it was a blister, so that explained it...

* Then he shows up at Miami and is very shaky to get to R4 and loses again to Canas, blowing a lead in the 3rd set. Both forehand/backhand misfiring.

* Loses badly to Nadal in Monte Carlo and then loses to Volandri in Rome.

* Beats Nadal in Hamburg and temporarily we all think Federer is back in full form.

* Beats Nadal in Wimbledon, but backhand looks shaky, bailed out by superhuman serving(21 aces)

* Loses to Djokovic in Montreal, after blowing 6 set points

* Wins Cincinatti but groundstrokes look terrible

* Wins US Open, but backhand continues to look very vulnerable, especially topspin drive backhand is seriously misfiring

* Loses Madrid final to Nalbandian when his forehand starts misfiring badly again

* Wins TMC with pretty good overall form, Fed fans think the worst is over and TMF is back

* Mono strikes in December 2007, destroys Federer's winter training

* Plays horrible tennis from Australia all the way to French Open, just terrible all around

* Wins Halle showing great form, never broken once

* Looks pretty shaky getting to Wimbledon final in straight sets(but lots of shanking) and loses memorable final to Nadal in darkness

* Continues horrid, listless play through Olympics

* Wins US Open in shakiest form ever, somehow forehand was firing again in the semis/final

* terrible indoor season, back injury

* Pretty good run to AO final, backhand looking good again but Nadal dismantles Federer again in 5 sets, questions begin again

* Horrific play in IW/Miami/Monte Carlo/Rome, Shankerific

* Wins Madrid Open against Nadal showing excellent form the last few matches

* Currently in FO final in shakiest slam form ever

* ????

So the big question is what happened between Feb 07 and spring 07 that made Federer descend from JesusFed to NormalFed? That was the single biggest decline IMHO.
Mono?

And I just think players aren't as intimidated as they once were.
They still have a long way to go though! LOL

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I think tennis misses TMF, this imposter Roger Shankerer looks like him but he is not him.
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