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Raemon Sluiter, why has he been so unsuccessful??

I watched him today, and not for the first time he looked really impressive, he plays a very strong grass court tennis, and occasionally hardcourt tennis as well. He just looks very strong technically and has a lot of talent, Im just baffled as to why hes so low down in ranking and has achieved relatively little in his career.
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Re: Raemon Sluiter, why has he been so unsuccessful??

that's right, Sluiter can have quite a powerful game, especially on hardcourt and grass as mentioned by you.

good post, I'm looking forward to hear some reasons from some people in here. I would be interested if there exist some reasons why Sluiter didn't achieve so much in his career so far. I don't know anything about his backgrounds.

But every time I saw him playing so far, I think he is really a nice guy and IMO really likeable. Never have met him off-court so far, though...

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Re: Raemon Sluiter, why has he been so unsuccessful??

two handed forehand, risky low % game with lots of unforced errors, too dependent on his first serve to win points.

He has a good game for indoors courts or grass.
But I dont think he is that good.

I think "Gambill in his prime" (hilarious concept, I know) was a lot better than Sluiter nowadays.

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Re: Raemon Sluiter, why has he been so unsuccessful??

Too much of a ladies man. I have heard suggestions to that effect in Eurosport commentary before...

His movement is very leaden-footed at times, and that is exposed on hardcourts often (there are plenty of guys who can simply outmaneouvre him) and on clay is woefully evident.
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Re: Raemon Sluiter, why has he been so unsuccessful??

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I think "Gambill in his prime" (hilarious concept, I know) was a lot better than Sluiter nowadays.
Was that when Jan-Mike was as high as "three in the world"?
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Re: Raemon Sluiter, why has he been so unsuccessful??

Haasfan, I say thanks for posting this as well. BaselineSmash, that's as much as you know of Raemon? Thanks!!

ugh, when there is information on Raemon, it's in Dutch, aaaaah

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Too much of a ladies man. I have heard suggestions to that effect in Eurosport commentary before...
oh thats not hard to believe, seeing as how Ancic is one of his best friends

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Re: Raemon Sluiter, why has he been so unsuccessful??

raemon you naughty boy .
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Escude, lol

With each passing season, I discover new reason
SAMPRAS --> Rios --> KUERTEN --> Kafelnikov -->
Federer --> Hewitt --> RODDICK --> GONZALEZ -->
NALBANDIAN --> Benneteau --> Davydenko --> Mathieu -->
TURSUNOV --> Mantilla --> KIEFER --> NADAL -->
Karlovic --> Odesnik --> Stepanek --> Monfils -->
??


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Re: Raemon Sluiter, why has he been so unsuccessful??

Raemon reminds me of Gambill, but little worse...
Gambill is a good player, but not that good to have a crack at the major things...
So does, Raemon..I personally don't think double handed forehand can bring
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Re: Raemon Sluiter, why has he been so unsuccessful??

People need to leave the double-handed shots to Monica Seles. It just makes other players look like fools, and when guys do it they look extremely gay

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Re: Raemon Sluiter, why has he been so unsuccessful??

Yes, guys shouldn't have double handed forehands and I agree with you there Naldo.

Sluiter is one of these guys when he plays for the Netherlands, he really lifts his game to new levels and he does much better than his ranking when he plays in the Dutch tournaments.

He has made 3 finals at 2000 Amsterdam; 2003 Amersfoort, Rotterdam, two of them on clay but all in the Netherlands. He loves Feyenoord football team and is a very affable guy.
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Smile Re: Raemon Sluiter, why has he been so unsuccessful??

That's so true! I think Raemon is in that category called the "Jan Michael Gambill" group. They have talent, but not consistent, their talent is more made rather than natural, they have something in their game or style that is always present and is holding them back. And even though they have a string of good results, for some reason, they aren't in the top 25 though it seems like they are! For some reason, it's hard to climb up the rankings. That group.

Oh and about the two-handed on both sides, yes, leave it to Miss Seles, but Fabrice is an exception for the men. As you know, he's clearly not bashing from both sides but he's showing off his racquet work and his magic tricks!

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Re: Raemon Sluiter, why has he been so unsuccessful??

He is a Feyenoord fan!! Goooood! Glad its not PSV!

Yeah, Raemon does seem to give it his all for his country; I know, who doesn't, but I am sure he is going the extra mile this week! Hopefully he can go farther into the tourney. I know he really gives it his all for Davis Cup too.

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Yes, guys shouldn't have double handed forehands and I agree with you there Naldo.

Sluiter is one of these guys when he plays for the Netherlands, he really lifts his game to new levels and he does much better than his ranking when he plays in the Dutch tournaments.

He has made 3 finals at 2000 Amsterdam; 2003 Amersfoort, Rotterdam, two of them on clay but all in the Netherlands. He loves Feyenoord football team and is a very affable guy.

With each passing season, I discover new reason
SAMPRAS --> Rios --> KUERTEN --> Kafelnikov -->
Federer --> Hewitt --> RODDICK --> GONZALEZ -->
NALBANDIAN --> Benneteau --> Davydenko --> Mathieu -->
TURSUNOV --> Mantilla --> KIEFER --> NADAL -->
Karlovic --> Odesnik --> Stepanek --> Monfils -->
??


Oliver Cromwell lay buried and dead. Hee-haw. Buried and dead.
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Re: Raemon Sluiter, why has he been so unsuccessful??

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People need to leave the double-handed shots to Monica Seles. It just makes other players look like fools, and when guys do it they look extremely gay
What if he looks extremely gay That's not a problem. The point is double-handed shots diminish your reach, and the price for that is higher in men's tennis
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