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Spanish players and double barrel names

What exactly is the story with this? The players near the top of the game all go by one surname and the journeymen that have been around for ages but most of the younger lower-ranked players go by 2 surnames.

Is it something they're forced to do at registration or a choice? I ask this because guys like Navarro (Pastor) and Almagro (Sanchez) dropped their second surname when they became more well known....
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Re: Spanish players and double barrel names

I read somewhere that all Spaniards have two surnames, by law. Don't know if that's true.

But most of them drop one when they become more noticeable, like Nadal is really Rafael Nadal Parera, etc
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Re: Spanish players and double barrel names

The mother and the fathers surnames are used on the birth certificates and the Portuguese do it as well.

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On Nadal bumping him on the changeover, Rosol said: "It's ok, he wanted to take my concentration; I knew he would try something".


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Re: Spanish players and double barrel names

When Nadal played Wimbledon the year he beat Ancic, he was "Nadal Parera" on the scoreboard.

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Is it something they're forced to do at registration or a choice? I ask this because guys like Navarro (Pastor) and Almagro (Sanchez) dropped their second surname when they became more well known....
What a couple of ungrateful pricks
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Re: Spanish players and double barrel names

Yes in Spain people are required to have a double barrelled surname by law. The father's surname usually comes before's the mother's, and many people are only referred to by their first/paternal surname in common, everyday use.
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It is the Romans fault.

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In Spain the woman doesn't lose her surnames when she gets married, so, the children gets not only 2 but infinite surnames: the first of the father, then the first of the mother, then the second of the father... and so on.

Me for example I can only recall 10 surnames, but you can do a little research and find hundreds of them.

My name is ***** ***** ****** oliva sebastián garcia del campo berdugo garcia cercadillo de dios

And the "-" symbol that they put (sanchez-vicario) is just because they want the surname of the mother to be present, so they "merge" both surnames into one, with the - symbol, and the atp/wta computers only have room for one surname
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Re: Spanish players and double barrel names

weird laws they have in spain
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There even was a case in European Tribunal about these surnames (known as Carlos Garcia Avello case). A person from Spain married another one from Belgium, Belgium didn't understand these spanish surnames regulations and all the shit started

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In Spain the woman doesn't lose her surnames when she gets married, so, the children gets not only 2 but infinite surnames: the first of the father, then the first of the mother, then the second of the father... and so on.

Me for example I can only recall 10 surnames, but you can do a little research and find hundreds of them.

My name is ***** ***** ****** oliva sebastián garcia del campo berdugo garcia cercadillo de dios

And the "-" symbol that they put (sanchez-vicario) is just because they want the surname of the mother to be present, so they "merge" both surnames into one, with the - symbol, and the atp/wta computers only have room for one surname
That sounds like hard work. I have 4. My first name, my middle name, my former last name (which is my mother's last name), and my current last name (which is my father's last name).

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Marcel Granollers-Pujol, has dropped the Pujol now.

Carles ("Carlos") Costa Masferrer
Albert Costa Casals
Fernando Vicente Filba

On Nadal bumping him on the changeover, Rosol said: "It's ok, he wanted to take my concentration; I knew he would try something".


Wilander on Dimitrov - "He has mind set on imitating Federer and yes it looks good. But he has no idea what to do on the court".

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I definitely would have preferred Gaba winning as he needs the points much more, but Jan would have beaten him anyway. I expect Hajek to destroy Machado, like 6-1 6-2.
Machado wins 6-2 6-1
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Re: Spanish players and double barrel names

in Southamerica we have 2 names and 2 surnames

what's the problem?

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