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WWW: Djokovic vs. Seles?

Just kidding. The actual question is....are there any observable similarities in the game of the two? They both had the same 1st coach I've heard, and I'm interested in how much influence the first coach may have in the development of a person's style.

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You can bet Djokovic's mom just screamed "Another king is dead" right about now - in the remotest corner - of her bathroom - followed by "The other one is buried." (from tennisplanet.me, following Madrid 2011 Djokovic d. Nadal 7-5 6-4)
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Re: WWW: Djokovic vs. Seles?

Different players.

Didn't Seles go to Nick Bollitieri (can't spell) who only teaches like one style of play?

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Different players.

Didn't Seles go to Nick Bollitieri (can't spell) who only teaches like one style of play?
Yes, Seles went to the Nick forehand factory.

Completely different players and I can't even use similar ethnicity here as one is Serb and the other is an ethnic Hungarian.

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Re: WWW: Djokovic vs. Seles?

Agree both have more similitaries then differences,nice spotter!!
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Well, the story I heard was that Djokovic's and Seles' first coach was a woman named Jelena Gencic. She was either a coach or the woman who first identified them as "extraordinary" or something of that nature.

Nole fan: "...most Fedtards seem to be very rabid and rude." (I agree 100%)

You can bet Djokovic's mom just screamed "Another king is dead" right about now - in the remotest corner - of her bathroom - followed by "The other one is buried." (from tennisplanet.me, following Madrid 2011 Djokovic d. Nadal 7-5 6-4)
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Re: WWW: Djokovic vs. Seles?

Still I believe they are different.

Seles took everything so early and had a shit serve. Bolletieri's players are pretty much similar in how they take it early.

Nole has more variation and is a million times a better mover on court.

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Re: WWW: Djokovic vs. Seles?

Okay I admit my eyes need a surgery.
I thought it was (Dudi) Sela.

The mind sees what it wants to see
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Still I believe they are different.

Seles took everything so early and had a shit serve. Bolletieri's players are pretty much similar in how they take it early.

Nole has more variation and is a million times a better mover on court.
Man is faster/stronger then a woman how much more variation has Nole got over Seles,please name them!!
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Man is faster/stronger then a woman how much more variation has Nole got over Seles,please name them!!
Seles has a shit slice. Nole can slice and has a very good drop shot. Nole can hit the ball flat or with a lot spin. Seles just smashed everything.

Seles was a crap mover on the women's tour when someone could actually move her around.

Anyways can't compare men and women tennis. Women's tennis when Seles played had less depth so she dominated.

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Seles has a shit slice. Nole can slice and has a very good drop shot. Nole can hit the ball flat or with a lot spin. Seles just smashed everything.

Seles was a crap mover on the women's tour when someone could actually move her around.

Anyways can't compare men and women tennis. Women's tennis when Seles played had less depth so she dominated.
Fair enough assessment,i could go on further but there's no need
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Monica 6-1 6-0
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Monica Seles was the best tennis player ever. Go Mon goo.
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They both grunt...
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Well, the story I heard was that Djokovic's and Seles' first coach was a woman named Jelena Gencic. She was either a coach or the woman who first identified them as "extraordinary" or something of that nature.
You r right. They both worked with Jelena Gencic as their first coach, but being the one that had the same opportunity 15 years ago, I can just say that I can see the traces of her influence both in Monika or Nole but not as decisive. First of all, two-handed backhand. I don't know anybody who worked with Gencic that didn't adopted this style. Further, she insists on top-spins, a lot of it in every hit. Monika never adopted this shot. Nole did, but I think it hasn't much to do with Jelena. Kick serve is another similarity, but as you may recall, Monika wasn't very good in it. Volley game, or lack of it, is maybe the best example, but as we all saw, Nole started to improve. There is one more thing. Nole knows how to slide, but Monika was the best in it in her time. She was one of the best on clay (Jelena conducts her trainings on clay predominantly).
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Monica is the real GOAT

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