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If Federer wins AO08 he is the GOAT

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I really believe so and I believe it is worth to mention. Lots of people think he needs Roland carros. but in the end after some years I don't think that will be the key factor just look how the experts already talk about Fed. Sampras became GOAT without Roland carros. If he wins another Slam I think that is the tipping point that most will says Fed is. it would extend some records and put him at 13 GS with 26 years of age just one shy of Sampras. even if he would never win a GS again. He think he would still be considered GOAT cause of his dominace during the 13.GS Plus all his records for example he would stay No.1 for at least another 25 weeks or so and win Wimbledon US and AO straight for the 3rd Time in a row. Also it would be highly unlikely that he would not win just one more in the coming years (He will at least play intil wimbledon 2012). The stage is set.

It is a great moment in history guys!!!

Can Fed actually pull it off? he seems to feel the pressure as well and the competition is catching up....

Any serious arguments agains it?

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Re: If Federer wins AO08 he is the GOAT

Fed can lose the #1 ranking still if he doesn't get to the final. And yes he needs to win Roland Garros to be GOAT.
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Re: If Federer wins AO08 he is the GOAT

He'll never be the GOAT since he'll never win the most important tennis event called Davis cup
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Re: If Federer wins AO08 he is the GOAT

I think he's already the GOAT (like many others), because he has played the highest level of tennis. But he's not the most succesful player of all time yet, and he also won't be if he wins the AO2008.
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Re: If Federer wins AO08 he is the GOAT

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Fed can lose the #1 ranking still if he doesn't get to the final.
Did I claim differently?

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And yes he needs to win Roland Garros to be GOAT.
No he doesn't. maybe now you think he does. But in 20 years people will think differently. he will need it to make it pretty but he will not need it to make it.
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Re: If Federer wins AO08 he is the GOAT

What do you call him when he wins the Aus Open and back it up with the French??SUPERMAN or MR INVINCIBLE??
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He'll never be the GOAT since he'll never win the most important tennis event called Davis cup
Davis Cup? Who cares

French open is way more crucial for him
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Re: If Federer wins AO08 he is the GOAT

He'll only have 13 Grand slams. Not enough IMO yet to supplant Sampras.

To be GOAT, I think he would need this roster.

1. 15 GS, one over Sampras.
2. Roland Garros, which Sampras never won, earning him the Career grand slam.
3. 6 consecutive Year end number 1.
4. One more Wimbledon this year (breaking Borg's streak of 42), or two over his next 3 years, matching Sampras' 7 total Wimbledon titles.
5. One more USO title to match Connors and Sampras.
6. Winning the AO this year to best Agassi in consecutive AO titles and tying him for total AO titles.
7. Calendar year grand slam to best Laver.
8. 19 super nine tournaments, or whatever they decide to call them now.
9. total career win ratio of 82 percent (matching Borg). He is over 80 now.
10. 100+ tournaments altogether to match Lendl and Connors.
11. 7 years in the top 3 to match Sampras' dominance.
12. 300 weeks career total number 1.

What has he already done?

1. 200+ weeks number one consecutive (besting Connors)
2. best two, three, four and five year winning percentage (besting Lendl)
3. 4 consecutive USO titles(besting Lendl)
4. 27 consecutive USO wins (besting Lendl)
5. Longest win streak on both Grass and Hardcourts(besting Borg and Lendl)
6. 5 streaks of 20+ wins (matching Borg)
7. 10 consecutive finals (besting Laver)
8. 15 consecutive semifinals (besting Lendl)
9. 15 consecutive quarterfinals (besting Lendl)
10. Won 3 slams in 3 different years. (besting Sampras.
11. Reached the finals of every slam in 2 years (besting Laver)
12. Won 2 slams in 4 different years (besting Borg)
13. Won 10 titles in 3 years consecutively.
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What do you call him when he wins the Aus Open and back it up with the French??SUPERMAN or MR INVINCIBLE??
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He'll only have 13 Grand slams. Not enough IMO yet to supplant Sampras.

To be GOAT, I think he would need this roster.

1. 15 GS, one over Sampras.
2. Roland Garros, which Sampras never won, earning him the Career grand slam.
3. 6 consecutive Year end number 1.
4. One more Wimbledon this year (breaking Borg's streak of 42), or two over his next 3 years, matching Sampras' 7 total Wimbledon titles.
5. One more USO title to match Connors and Sampras.
6. Winning the AO this year to best Agassi in consecutive AO titles and tying him for total AO titles.
7. Calendar year grand slam to best Laver.
8. 19 super nine tournaments, or whatever they decide to call them now.
9. total career win ratio of 82 percent (matching Borg). He is over 80 now.
10. 100+ tournaments altogether to match Lendl and Connors.
11. 7 years in the top 3 to match Sampras' dominance.
12. 300 weeks career total number 1.
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Re: If Federer wins AO08 he is the GOAT

tough question.

what is more important?

1) to win most slams?
2) being the most dominate player ever?
3) win on all 4 surfaces?

at the moment it looks like this

1) sampras
2) federer
3) agassi

just based on facts it is too early to tell right now.
in my personal view he's already the best man ever that has picked up a tennis racquet.
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Re: If Federer wins AO08 he is the GOAT

Sampras is the ultimate GOAT.
Federer will overtake if he wins RG.

Sampras GOAT

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To be GOAT, I think he would need this roster.

1. 15 GS, one over Sampras.
2. Roland Garros, which Sampras never won, earning him the Career grand slam.
3. 6 consecutive Year end number 1.
4. One more Wimbledon this year (breaking Borg's streak of 42), or two over his next 3 years, matching Sampras' 7 total Wimbledon titles.
5. One more USO title to match Connors and Sampras.
6. Winning the AO this year to best Agassi in consecutive AO titles and tying him for total AO titles.
7. Calendar year grand slam to best Laver.
8. 19 super nine tournaments, or whatever they decide to call them now.
9. total career win ratio of 82 percent (matching Borg). He is over 80 now.
10. 100+ tournaments altogether to match Lendl and Connors.
11. 7 years in the top 3 to match Sampras' dominance.
12. 300 weeks career total number 1.
That definitely wouldn't be enough, add to the list:

13. Break Nicklaus golf majors record
14. 100m. world record owner
15. Win more FIFA word cups than Brazil
16. Win more Tour de France than Armstrong
17. Win more Mr Olympia than Coleman
18. Win the peace Nobel prize (optional)
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That definitely wouldn't be enough, add to the list:

13. Break Nicklaus golf majors record
14. 100m. world record owner
15. Win more FIFA word cups than Brazil
16. Win more Tour de France than Armstrong
17. Win more Mr Olympia than Coleman
18. Win the peace Nobel prize (optional)


you forgot
19. Win Eurovision for Switzerland
20. Win the Sauna Championship in Finland

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That will be the last victory of Rafa for quite some time.. With his joke mentality and pathetic game, I hope the disgusting player loses every single match next season. He's disgraceful. He should just retire. He's a joke.
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21. Get a platinum record.

David Nalbandian /.\ Marcos Baghdatis /.\ Juan Martin Del Potro /.\ Alejandro Falla /.\ Bernard Tomic /.\ Gustavo Kuerton /.\
/.\Roger Federer /.\

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Watch your hero getting schooled by Nalbandian like this pansy again.
At least this pansy took 6 games from Nalby whilst your hero took 3 games in Madrid.
Oct/Nov 2007: There was a time in history when the quality of a tennis player was determined by how many games he won off David Nalbandian.
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