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Mens Tennis: High Quality

After watching nail biting male competition, I think they deserve much higher prize than womens.
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I think same way. They plays much more hours than woman.
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This thread has been done so many times, even more than Paris Hilton has been done.

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Please, not again I must confess that I watched a bit the 1st round of Jankovic, the morbid part in me wanted to see both of them disqualified for crimes against tennis.

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They make the four majors a lot of money so they deserve equal prise money for that.
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Equal work for equal pay.

Women should play best of 5 sets then.

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Does anyone here pay less for a boring movie or a shorter movie or just a plain stupid movie at a theatre, than for a worthwhile movie? "Entertainment" value is subjective.

Believe it or not, there are some people who would prefer to watch women prancing around the court for 1.5 hours in sportswear and get much much more out of than than watching what most here would call high-quality tennis in a men's 4 hour nailbiter.

That said, just live with it. It's not going to change.

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Women should play best of 5 sets then.
Believe me, this is not something anyone really wants. 3 sets is enough.
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Does anyone here pay less for a boring movie or a shorter movie or just a plain stupid movie at a theatre, than for a worthwhile movie? "Entertainment" value is subjective.

Believe it or not, there are some people who would prefer to watch women prancing around the court for 1.5 hours in sportswear and get much much more out of than than watching what most here would call high-quality tennis in a men's 4 hour nailbiter.

That said, just live with it. It's not going to change.



Believe me, this is not something anyone really wants. 3 sets is enough.
Believe me I don't want to see it as well, anytime a women's match goes to 3 sets I'm like "Damn!".

Therefore they should get paid less.

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Believe me I don't want to see it as well, anytime a women's match goes to 3 sets I'm like "Damn!".

Therefore they should get paid less.
Well, if we could design a mechanism where everyone would pay the max they are willing to pay for a specific match, everyone would be happy. But since that can't be done, a mixture of politically appropriate behavior combined with confusion about who prefers what leads to the current scheme.

On the flip side, and a different area, many many countries now offer maternity and paternity leave on equal terms after the birth of a child. This is ridiculous. S*** happens to both genders.
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Believe me I don't want to see it as well, anytime a women's match goes to 3 sets I'm like "Damn!".

Therefore they should get paid less.
are you an angry white male?
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Actually, I would be prepared to discuss equal pay in the slams in return for having a deciding tiebreak instead of a 3rd set. That would be a fair compensation for spending less time on the courts overall

I mean, if women were to play less tennis on aggregate, that would be of net benefit to people preferring to watch other matches. Hence, it would only be fair to provide part of that increased benefit in the form of monetary compensation for women.

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^ I thought of an alternative scheme once, which is to separate the women's and men's matches on a ticket. There are some scheduling complications and within-gender compensation questions involved, but when you do that, you will see some stadiums fill up and some stadiums remain less full or empty, if they are being billed at the same price and if it is true that one gender "should" be paid more.

Over the long haul, this is not sustainable. Then, the gender whose stadiums remained empty would have to be offered at lower and lower prices until people were willing to pay that price to watch (reservation cost) -- then shell the proceeds of the stadium to the gender accordingly.
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The slam organizers would never agree on such a scheme, say that you put the Federer and Blake matches on Rod Laver and you put the women's matches on Vodafone. If people derive more pleasure from watching men's tennis, (in the absence of a discriminating scheme like the one you have in mind if I understand you correctly) then how would the organizer set prices so as to maximize revenues?

I don't think this is a trivial problem, at least the solution is not obvious. Hence, if the organizers suspect that viewers derive more pleasure from watching men's tennis, and if they charge a single prize for a stadium, they would practically end up doing what they are doing now: Mixing men's and women's matches, so people who want to watch Federer-Berdych are also watching the women's matches on offer.

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^ I thought of an alternative scheme once, which is to separate the women's and men's matches on a ticket. There are some scheduling complications and within-gender compensation questions involved, but when you do that, you will see some stadiums fill up and some stadiums remain less full or empty, if they are being billed at the same price and if it is true that one gender "should" be paid more.

Over the long haul, this is not sustainable. Then, the gender whose stadiums remained empty would have to be offered at lower and lower prices until people were willing to pay that price to watch (reservation cost) -- then shell the proceeds of the stadium to the gender accordingly.
that sounds like a good idea but i dout it will ever happen. Sometimes womens tennis isnt so bad though but this Australian open is really only exiting because of all the big mens matches. Jelanas first round was good though. I hope the semis and finals can be as exiting as whats happend so far cause i got tikets and wanna see a big 5 setter or three.

Go Hewitt and other Aussies
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Should play best of 5, I don't like most of it but if I don't like I don't watch. They are earning same amount of money for playing less and playing a hell of a lot worse.

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