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Why is Safin's game not suitable for grass?

I've been hearing this all the time, and just wonder why. He seems to like fast courts, or is there "too fast" as well? I never seen him on grass, I'll be honest.

I heared stuff like: "he's too big and has to bend his legs...", but Venus Willimas in the women's game is the biggest there is and she's the best on grass. Scud also has reached Wimby final.

And if it's the tactics, what is wrong? I realy hope that Lungren will teach him...

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Re: Why is Safin's game not suitable for grass?

I've seen his matches at Queens in 2000 and thought wtf??? He was clearly struggling then (didn't know what to do on a grass court), but he has learned to volley and has a big serve. Somehow I always thought he could win Wimbledon one day, but perhaps that's just me expressing my dream.

Perhaps he needs to step more inside the court.

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Re: Why is Safin's game not suitable for grass?

maybe it's mental, because his game is well suited for grass. huge serve, huge return, solid grounstrokes, capable volleyer, he should do well on grass so I dunno

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Re: Why is Safin's game not suitable for grass?

What is Marat's best result at Wimby??

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Re: Why is Safin's game not suitable for grass?

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What is Marat's best result at Wimby??
QF, lost to Ivanicevic in 2001. Maybe that's not bad, but he doesn't have good overall results.

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Re: Why is Safin's game not suitable for grass?

Sure he can play on grass, he was awesome against Clément at Wimby 2001 Round16 when he trounced the frenchman 60 63 62
I also saw him against Goran and he did pretty good losing 75 76 36 76
Maybe he just needs a bit more of self-belief and a few tactics because he has the shots.

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He is improving. If someone remembers when we first saw his game at USA-Russia DC match in 1998, his volleys back then were absolutely ridiculous. Now he is a very competent net player. One thing that still counts against him is his western grip. You could get away with that on grass in era of slow tennis ( Borg ), but with power play of these days I would imagine it is not easy to handle low bounce with his height aggravated with Western grip.
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The guy has gone totally off the rails mentally in the past month. I'll be surprised if he makes any sort of impact at Wimbledon this year. But then his sheer power game could garner him some quick results in the early rounds, and he could be off and running from there on in. At least on grass he's less likely to reach a complete physical meltdown by the fourth round a la Roland Garros.
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Re: Why is Safin's game not suitable for grass?

It's tricky with his height to adjust to the low bounce, he's really got a hardcourt game and someone with a decent slice can make life hell for him on grass; plus he's still not that comfortable serving and volleying and playing a lot at the net, but he can improve and I expect him to do well at Wimbledon this year. Provided he doesn't run into Jolly Ollie in the early rounds, of course (not to be sneered at, that result, since Rochus' speed and flat strokes on grass can be very effective - just ask Coria).

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Re: Why is Safin's game not suitable for grass?

I believe he'll do well in Wimbledon some time


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Re: Why is Safin's game not suitable for grass?

His game is not suited for grass - do you remember he lost to Olivier Rochus here couple of years ago! That was a shoker!!!
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Re: Why is Safin's game not suitable for grass?

JRM: But where was Marat's head

All: I'd be more concerned about his blisters, too be honest. Especially playing this week.
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Re: Why is Safin's game not suitable for grass?

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The guy has gone totally off the rails mentally in the past month. I'll be surprised if he makes any sort of impact at Wimbledon this year. But then his sheer power game could garner him some quick results in the early rounds, and he could be off and running from there on in. At least on grass he's less likely to reach a complete physical meltdown by the fourth round a la Roland Garros.
I think he is still match tough... He was just plain unlucky with his blisters at RG after having such a good draw.... During some of the RG matches, due to his blisters, he actually had to volley more than his usual liking and those volleys were good.

Another astonishing stats, Marat has been the King of Aces for the last 2 Grand Slams in a row even though at RG his last match was in the 4th Round.

Plus another mental factor, he always consider grass as his least favourite surface.

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