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I'm talking about their playing style . Not according to mtf who have made claims that gulbis is future number 1 and gasquet is washed up has been.
Berdych is probably closer to Safin in playing style and Safin doesn't hit as many dropshots as Gulbis.

It was interesting that the Latvian's best GS performance so far has been on clay.

On Nadal bumping him on the changeover, Rosol said: "It's ok, he wanted to take my concentration; I knew he would try something".


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I definitely would have preferred Gaba winning as he needs the points much more, but Jan would have beaten him anyway. I expect Hajek to destroy Machado, like 6-1 6-2.
Machado wins 6-2 6-1
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Re: Which one of these 8 youngsters will have the best career? (Gulbis, Cilic, etc et

Cilic wins his second title on tour, he has some solid results to defend from the GS events in 2008.

On Nadal bumping him on the changeover, Rosol said: "It's ok, he wanted to take my concentration; I knew he would try something".


Wilander on Dimitrov - "He has mind set on imitating Federer and yes it looks good. But he has no idea what to do on the court".

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I definitely would have preferred Gaba winning as he needs the points much more, but Jan would have beaten him anyway. I expect Hajek to destroy Machado, like 6-1 6-2.
Machado wins 6-2 6-1
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Cilic had another solid GS result, losing to del Potro in the 4th round. He and Tsonga were the best performed again.

Donaldo Young a conspicuous absence from the AO.

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1. Tsonga	12-3
2. Cilic	12-5
3. Gulbis	7-5
4. Bolelli	6-5
5. Querrey	5-5
6. Korolev	3-5
7. Zverev	2-5
8. Young	        0-4

On Nadal bumping him on the changeover, Rosol said: "It's ok, he wanted to take my concentration; I knew he would try something".


Wilander on Dimitrov - "He has mind set on imitating Federer and yes it looks good. But he has no idea what to do on the court".

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I definitely would have preferred Gaba winning as he needs the points much more, but Jan would have beaten him anyway. I expect Hajek to destroy Machado, like 6-1 6-2.
Machado wins 6-2 6-1
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Re: Part 2 : Which one of these 8 youngsters will have the best career? Cilic, etc e

Both Cilic and Tsonga won titles this week, both were MM sure.

On Nadal bumping him on the changeover, Rosol said: "It's ok, he wanted to take my concentration; I knew he would try something".


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I definitely would have preferred Gaba winning as he needs the points much more, but Jan would have beaten him anyway. I expect Hajek to destroy Machado, like 6-1 6-2.
Machado wins 6-2 6-1
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Re: Part 2 : Which one of these 8 youngsters will have the best career? Cilic, etc e

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Re: Part 2 : Which one of these 8 youngsters will have the best career? Cilic, etc e

Tsonga and Cilic by far
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Re: Part 2 : Which one of these 8 youngsters will have the best career? Cilic, etc e

Tsonga - Solid groundstrokes off both sides, very competent at the net, punchy and accurate serve that could improve even more and mentally very sound. Already shown that he can win TMS titles and crush the field in regular ATP events. Shown he can beat the best players.

Gulbis - Inconsistent at the moment but highly talented. Looks like he could make the step up very soon if he pulls his game together.

Cilic - Making good progress up the rankings and very good an beating people below him. Immensely stong mentally too. Still not sure whether he has enough in his game to beat the very best though. A bit one dimensional at times.

Bolelli - A bit older than the others but making the kind of progress that could take him into the top twenty if he continues to improve. Very good on clay and not too shabby on hard courts either. Beautiful backhand. Not convinced he is top ten material.

Querrey - A very solid player improving all the time but relies too heavily on his serve and forehand. Will get outwitted by more intelligent players with more variety but is still a dangerous customer when on form. Not that bad on clay either. Can go on the occasional good run.

Korolev - Far too inconsistent by the looks of things, and haven't seen enough to be convinced. Good on clay and hard and successfully qualified for Rotterdam, but needs to do more.

Zverev - Again, haven't seen enough but hasn't shown the same kind of promise as the other lot. Am happy to change my stance of further evidence.

Young - Too much pressure and in freefall. Will do well to recover in an increasinly competitive field.
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Re: Part 2 : Which one of these 8 youngsters will have the best career? Cilic, etc e

Very good responses nestingnus.

Tsonga, will be actually playing some clay events this year, shall be interesting to see if he can play most of the season injury free.

Gulbis, well he is on the lookout for a new coach, but there is only so much a coach can do, if the player doesn't want to make the improvements.

Korolev, he is just inconsistent, though he has made a final this year and in a semi this week. It's not good losing a final to Fish though.

Bolelli hasn't really built on the form of last year, still too poor on returns.

Cilic is easily in the top 20 and progressing well, though his forehand can break down when under pressure and needs to improve his volleys.

On Nadal bumping him on the changeover, Rosol said: "It's ok, he wanted to take my concentration; I knew he would try something".


Wilander on Dimitrov - "He has mind set on imitating Federer and yes it looks good. But he has no idea what to do on the court".

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I definitely would have preferred Gaba winning as he needs the points much more, but Jan would have beaten him anyway. I expect Hajek to destroy Machado, like 6-1 6-2.
Machado wins 6-2 6-1
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Re: Part 2 : Which one of these 8 youngsters will have the best career? Cilic, etc e

Simon still gets left off these kinds of lists even though he's top 10. I guess he's a little older, maybe, but he is the Rodney Dangerfield of MTF GM.

Cilic has the most solid game and all surface potential. I see him usurping Tsonga on this list at some point. He is destined for the top 10. Whether he rises to the challenge once he's there depends on whether he can improve the weaknesses Action Jackson points out, and just as important, conquer a tendency to go on walkabout for brief patches, especially the starts of matches and in the deep end of sets.

Tsonga has the best major-winning capability at present, at Wimbledon. And the highest rank at the moment. But his game isn't all surface. Scary stat: He has won exactly as many clay ATP matches as Nadal has won French Open titles. And he's injury prone.

Querrey would be next on my list because of his baseline consistency, which transfers well from hard court to clay and back. He even has the potential for a good grass game. Mentally, he's got some weaknesses. But he could pull off some big things at one point or another.

Gulbis: I'd love for him to play amazing tennis for more than two points in a row. But while I wish that he was first or second on this list, he still gets the vote for most squandered talent. Even his RG result is suspect to me, especially now that he's done f--- all this year. He got as far as he did at RG last year by beating clay legends like James Blake. That said, for the sake of the game even, I really hope he proves all the doubters and naysayers wrong. Because when's on, he plays a future (not futures) form of lightning-strike tennis.

Korolev has some real talent as well. Very mercurial. I need to see him play more.

Zverev has some old-school skills. But old-school skills only seem to make impact when the player is physically imposing and powerful like a Tsonga. He'd do well to learn from Stepanek's achievements on court.

Bolelli is in the running to be a current or future #1...most handsome/hottest player in the ATP.

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Very good responses nestingnus.

Tsonga, will be actually playing some clay events this year, shall be interesting to see if he can play most of the season injury free.

Gulbis, well he is on the lookout for a new coach, but there is only so much a coach can do, if the player doesn't want to make the improvements.

Korolev, he is just inconsistent, though he has made a final this year and in a semi this week. It's not good losing a final to Fish though.
Bolelli hasn't really built on the form of last year, still too poor on returns.

Cilic is easily in the top 20 and progressing well, though his forehand can break down when under pressure and needs to improve his volleys.
That was his first final. It would have been worst had Fish lost.

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That was his first final. It would have been worst had Fish lost.
Fish has one of the worst records in finals, therefore he is one of the best ever players to play again, if a player wants to win a title.

On Nadal bumping him on the changeover, Rosol said: "It's ok, he wanted to take my concentration; I knew he would try something".


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I definitely would have preferred Gaba winning as he needs the points much more, but Jan would have beaten him anyway. I expect Hajek to destroy Machado, like 6-1 6-2.
Machado wins 6-2 6-1
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Nice to see Zverev have a good showing at TMS level, hope he can build on this.

On Nadal bumping him on the changeover, Rosol said: "It's ok, he wanted to take my concentration; I knew he would try something".


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I definitely would have preferred Gaba winning as he needs the points much more, but Jan would have beaten him anyway. I expect Hajek to destroy Machado, like 6-1 6-2.
Machado wins 6-2 6-1
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Re: Part 2 : Which one of these 8 youngsters will have the best career? Cilic, etc e

Whats DY's ranking these days?
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Re: Part 2 : Which one of these 8 youngsters will have the best career? Cilic, etc e

Current rankings:

Gulbis- 43, but can't string wins together.

Korolev- 91, but spending most of this year attempting to qualify for ATP events.

Tsonga- 10, but hasn't played since Miami.

Cilic- 15, solid year so far.

Young- 165

Querrey- 60

Zverev- 76, but will jump with this week's result.

Bolelli- 41

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Tsonga and Cilic still the ones clearly ahead of the rest.

DY is going backwards.

On Nadal bumping him on the changeover, Rosol said: "It's ok, he wanted to take my concentration; I knew he would try something".


Wilander on Dimitrov - "He has mind set on imitating Federer and yes it looks good. But he has no idea what to do on the court".

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Machado wins 6-2 6-1
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