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Coria overrated???

They call him 'el magico' and refer to as 'unbeatable on clay', but I have problems to understand why? When you watch his game he is fast and easy on hand and very consistent and... that's it. You see no major weapon, and he is so tiny. Eurosport commentator also said that he doubted Coria can win Roland Garros because he seems to tiny and voulnerable. But, Coria had a prety good draw.

I also don't see that he is unbeatable. Tim Henman pressed him hard, and Roger Federer beat him on his favorite surface.
And take notice: HE NEVER PLAYED SO MANY GOOD PLAYERS on clay. He didn't play Ferrero. Neither Kuerten at his best as far as I know. I don't know about Nalbandian neither - although but he is only starting to play well on clay. His good claycort record may be also due to luck - he simply didn't play the best guys.

And don't understand me wrong, I don't say he is not a top-player. But who else has the impression that 'unbeatable', and his clay record are overrated?
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Well...let's see the facts : he has lost only TWO MATCHES IN A WHOLE YEAR...

..both were finals, one against Nº1 in the world and the other after getting injured while winning...his record was 37-2 and bageled a lot of sets.

In today's competitive tennis, that's as "unbeatable" as you will find...

...if you don't like the guy, OK, but dont' expect the rest of us to share your denial...
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Yeah, overrated. 2 losses on clay since last RG semis and finals of hardcourt Miami
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hahah.. overrated.. Fuck off..

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Guillermo actually looks taller than Gaudio. Guillermo needs to get into the gym and start hitting the weights. He'll be fine.
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Kuerten at his best as far as I know.
Okay i think i don't need to give explanations to someone that says that sorry.
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Overrated: on clay? no, not at all, IMO.... Not most people's fave player: yeah, apparently


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Re: Coria overrated???

I don't think he's overrated but he's certainly not unbeatable on clay, no player is unbeatable in the men's game, thank goodness. I myself called him a fortunate retriever when he got to the Miami final largely thanks to chokes by Benneteau and Gonzalez without being very convincing, but he does have more dimensions than just defence and it's obvious on a clay court where he uses the angles so well, switches to offensive mode and moves his opponents around the court, and finishes off points smartly with a perfectly timed dropshot (which is an offensive shot, after all). In the first couple of sets today and even later on there were plenty of times where he soaked up pressure from Gaudio, got the ball in an awkward place and then hit big winners himself with plenty of margin for error.

I do agree he had a fairly kind draw, and with Ferrero presumably back to full health next year he may regret this missed opportunity, but I'm pretty sure he'll be in the mix of top contenders; he seemingly owns Moya nowadays, and perhaps could take advantage of Kuerten's weaker movement these days should they meet. The bottom line is, a winning streak of that nature on clay should never be underestimated, it is a great physical and mental achievement. When you see him play a dull as hell snoozefest against the likes of David Ferrer and pick up weak titles like Sopot you begin to wonder about his credentials, but then it's also true that you only see how good a top player is when they're really tested; think of his one-sided drubbings of Enqvist and Kiefer in Monte Carlo this year, then remember the gruelling battle he came through in the next round against Pavel, who pushed him all the way and forced him to come up with his best tennis.

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Re: Coria overrated???

I don't think hes overated at all.

He'll deffinetly win Roland Garros, just wasn't meant to be yesterday.
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Steve-o: Gaudio is one of the fittest guys on tour.
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I think maybe a tiny bit overated - every game he is made extreme favourite which should not be the case. Henman (who is supposedly crap on clay) should have beaten him - Coria was extreme favourite and maybe should have lost. Gaudio beat him too albeit with some injury problems.

He is not unbeatable on clay. I think he is overrated in that people think he will win every match he plays on clay.
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Yes, and Coria evidently is not one of the fittest guys on tour when you look at all his injury problems. It's happened too many times to be a coincidence, it's something he needs to address urgently and you can hardly blame it all on best of five set matches as other players hold up perfectly well when faced with the same task. If it really is something to do with his being unable to take supplements or vitamins anymore, that's a real pity - with all that's happened recently, Rusedski being acquitted and the ATP lambasted for its handling of the issue, Coria can feel free to try a supplement of some kind?

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ROGER FEDERER: Yeah, I remember this one time when I went on a vacation on the Maldives. That was in the year 2001, I think. I went to this spa. I went to walk around with my girlfriend. I walk in, and we want to book a spa. This guy goes, "AHH, I remember you. You beat Sampras. I saw you on TV." That was like, really, how can you remember me? This guy has probably never been off his island and still knows me. I was a little bit shocked. Then I went to play tennis with him because he was actually the tennis teacher. It was nice.

Q. Were you naked at the time in the spa?

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he doubted Coria can win Roland Garros because he seems to tiny and voulnerable.
Gee, isn't that *exactly* what they used to say about Ferrero?

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Re: Coria overrated???

I know Ferrero was a bit on the thin side a few years ago, but did they really say that about him? It's true his serve was something of a weakness back then, but he's always had that forehand, which is a massive groundstroke weapon that Coria lacks. Not that I'm saying it will necessarily preclude him from winning RG, but it may make things tougher for him when he has to play a succession of top players who can give him a tough match (ie: not Moya).

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ROGER FEDERER: Yeah, I remember this one time when I went on a vacation on the Maldives. That was in the year 2001, I think. I went to this spa. I went to walk around with my girlfriend. I walk in, and we want to book a spa. This guy goes, "AHH, I remember you. You beat Sampras. I saw you on TV." That was like, really, how can you remember me? This guy has probably never been off his island and still knows me. I was a little bit shocked. Then I went to play tennis with him because he was actually the tennis teacher. It was nice.

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ROGER FEDERER: No. It was at the front desk. I didn't walk in naked.
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