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Is Mary right? Is Gaudio 2nd tier Argentine who probably is One Hit Wonder (my words)

Sorry for all the threads...I have a lot on my mind

Mary was definitely pro-Coria while JMac was behind Gaudio. Mary said (and also said Gaudio agreed at one point) that Coria is in another class. She said he is (well today) only #44 while Coria is #3, and that this will probably be Gaudio's only Slam while Coria, as Gaudio whispered to him, will be back here to contend next year.

For those who know Coria and Gaudio's game and history better than I, are they really in to different strata? Was this a really big upset with regard to talent as opposed to ranking?
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Re: Is Mary right? Is Gaudio 2nd tier Argentine who probably is One Hit Wonder (my words)

Gaudio has great victories in other surfaces. This win should be good for his confidence
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Re: Is Mary right? Is Gaudio 2nd tier Argentine who probably is One Hit Wonder (my words)

I disagree.I don't think that Coria is in another class from Gaudio.Sure,Coria might be a little more talented.I think that Gaudio has a lots of talents, but his brain is another thing.

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Re: Is Mary right? Is Gaudio 2nd tier Argentine who probably is One Hit Wonder (my words)

It didn't help that Gaudio hardly produced a great performance today, he was horrible in the first two sets, good in the third, didn't need to do anything in the fourth and then almost handed the match to an injured opponent in the final set by making stupid mistakes. Still, I think this is just a commentator being disgruntled at the fact that the favourite was upset, in the same way people were annoyed at Costa rocking the Ferrero boat in 2002. Gaudio certainly has the talent to be a top player, there was ample evidence of it during his matches with Hewitt and Nalbandian, and he said in his interview that from now on he'll hopefully believe in himself more, so the big results may well continue. I doubt he'll ever display the amazing consistency of a Coria since he will never have the same steely mentality, but I think more good results on clay and even on hardcourts are possible. He needs to take the opportunity afforded to him by his Top 10 ranking to go deeper in North American events this year.

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Re: Is Mary right? Is Gaudio 2nd tier Argentine who probably is One Hit Wonder (my words)

When Gaudio lost to Hewitt in Monte Carlo, I was convinced he was headed towards the "Lost Generation" of talent, but he has proved me wrong.

Still though, to become a threat on another surface he will have to improve his service, especially in mixing it up, not just kick serve all the time. If he can do that and improve volleys and overhead I think he will be fine.

His forehand in the Nalbandian match was the best I've ever seen him hit it.

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I agree a lot with Sjengster... let's see what he does this summer...but until he proves otherwise, consider him a TOP 10 on clay and TOP 30 overall, no more than that...

Surely, he always has had talent for more, but his mind and his serve have not been not up to that till now...let's see.
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Re: Is Mary right? Is Gaudio 2nd tier Argentine who probably is One Hit Wonder (my words)

I didn't get the impression that Mary was pro-coria.

Well, I think Mary put it best. "Who knows if Gaudio will win more slams or not. I'm just glad he won today." Or something to that extent.

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Re: Is Mary right? Is Gaudio 2nd tier Argentine who probably is One Hit Wonder (my words)

What did Gaudio do this time over Hewitt that he failed to do at Monte Carlo? Had Coria not had cramps, and Gaudio still was positive after the wave, do you think Gaudio would still have had a chance?
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Re: Is Mary right? Is Gaudio 2nd tier Argentine who probably is One Hit Wonder (my words)

Pea, I felt she was pro-Coria. Especially after the first two sets, she was saying he was "out of his league". McEnroe, on the other hand, still tried to talk some belief, "it ain't over till its over."

I'm trying to remember off the top of my head, Coria's cramps came at the end of the 3rd or at the beginning of the 4th? Meaning, was he troubled in the 3rd and that's how he lost the set, more than Gaudio keeping serve?
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Re: Is Mary right? Is Gaudio 2nd tier Argentine who probably is One Hit Wonder (my words)

What Gaudio managed to do this time against Hewitt was not choke, he was outplaying him in Monte Carlo exactly as he did here at RG (more so, he won the first set 6-1 there and led 3-0 and 5-3 in the second set), but got tight and threw the match away with poor serving, bizarre errors and a total lack of effort in the final set. When he holds his nerve he should always beat Hewitt on clay, he has more power, more variety and better movement.

Coria said he started to feel the cramps in the third set, but by that stage Gaudio had improved his game markedly. I do think even without the cramping Gaudio could have gotten back into it, he was playing completely the wrong strategy early on by trying to finish points too quickly and giving Coria errors instead of extending him in longer rallies. All of Coria's victories over Gaudio have been three-setters whereas Gaudio's one win was in straight sets, that should tell you something. He just never really played to the best of his ability today, which is a bit disappointing - he didn't have to ultimately, even in the final set he just had to keep the ball in play (although he made a real hash of that until he was 6-5 and matchpoint down, when he finally prolonged the points and forced Coria into overpressing).

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Re: Is Mary right? Is Gaudio 2nd tier Argentine who probably is One Hit Wonder (my words)

And if he becomes a One-Slam Wonder, so what? I think it's very lucky of him to have won a slam, unlike most players who retire with no slams at all - not even in doubles or mixed.
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And if he becomes a One-Slam Wonder, so what? I think it's very lucky of him to have won a slam, unlike most players who retire with no slams at all - not even in doubles or mixed.
True,I bet that Rio would give anything to become a One-slam-wonder.
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I agree a lot with Sjengster... let's see what he does this summer...but until he proves otherwise, consider him a TOP 10 on clay and TOP 30 overall, no more than that...

Surely, he always has had talent for more, but his mind and his serve have not been not up to that till now...let's see.

Sadly, rankings wise, I see Gaudio as finishing in the top 8 this year and doing a Schuettler the next year - i.e. falling back down to where he used to be - top 40.
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Re: Is Mary right? Is Gaudio 2nd tier Argentine who probably is One Hit Wonder (my words)

gaudio is usually ranked around 20/25, the ranking of 44 he had when roland garros started was his worst ranking in 4 years, he barely won matches this year till barcelona (where he made the final) and now roland garros.

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Yonge, Scheuttler is still top 10
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