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There is a Lot of Argentine Resentment...

Not so much on this board (although there are certainly a few around here to think that "they look the same, sound the same, play the same"), it certainly in the press and on other boards I've read.

I'm not sure if it's a general dislike of people from that region in general, or what it is, but apparently it's become politically correct to smack of prejudice whenever writing about these players.

Well, I hope just that those with that attitude enjoy this final as much as I will, and that they choke on their tongues while writing their next article about it, as they struggle to remember which was Gaudio and Coria

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They are just jaleous of how well they are doing.I bet 3$ that many newspaper, monday ,will write the put the wrong caption under the picture.

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It's wrong impression. Almost everyone loves Argentina. I can't wait to get back to there next summer.
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Re: There is a Lot of Argentine Resentment...

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It's wrong impression. Almost everyone loves Argentina. I can't wait to get back to there next summer.
I don't doubt that you love Argentina. Lots of people love America but are still prejudiced against Americans Much like I'm sure that the people writing articles and talking out their asses about how they all "look the same, sound the same, play the same" don't actually hate Argentina...

Anyways, perhaps there is some other reason for all the BS. That is sort of why I made this thread, hoping that somebody would share it with me.

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Re: There is a Lot of Argentine Resentment...

I agree that a lot of the coverage here focuses too much on nationality. There seems to be a subtext of disappointment that foreign non-native-English-speakers have taken control of the tournament, and an assumption that U.S. viewers will have trouble relating to them for this reason. I don't see why this has to be the case... If the media would act excited about these players, the enthusiasm might be contagious. Hopefully the continued success and exposure of the Argentinians in big tournaments will lead to their recognition as players with individual personalities and playing styles.

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I agree that a lot of the coverage here focuses too much on nationality. There seems to be a subtext of disappointment that foreign non-native-English-speakers have taken control of the tournament, and an assumption that U.S. viewers will have trouble relating to them for this reason. I don't see why this has to be the case... If the media would act excited about these players, the enthusiasm might be contagious. Hopefully the continued success and exposure of the Argentinians in big tournaments will lead to their recognition as players with individual personalities and playing styles.

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Re: There is a Lot of Argentine Resentment...

Argentine resentment well as Q said it doesn't help that they are from a non-English background, and I have gone into it many times why players who are better on clay are disrespected within the English-language media, even the ones like Nalbandian who excel on all surfaces are treated poorly and are at best given grudging respect.
Coria is well liked by the media, especially when they keep throwing around that he is like Borg shit around.

Maybe because of the rise of Argentine tennis and then the incidents with Chela, Coria and Puerta leave a lingering suspicion about their honesty with some people and these will use these points as a way of criticising all of them.

Then it comes down to laziness as well, they are all from Argentina they must be only good on clay.What do you think of Vilas? That question is always asked, they all play the same game, Nalbandian is different to Coria, Chela is different to Zabaleta, Gaudio is different to Calleri, just because they play from the baseline and they are from the same country then that's where the laziness comes in.

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I admit it, I don't like argentinian tennismen, mostly for their game, and Coria for many reasons.
But I love the argentinian football team
Ans Sabatini was one of my favorites when I as very young.

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What are you guys talking about?

They don't like Argentina because their the new kid on the block. You have to earn your respect. Argentina has many, many years before they are worthy of respect from the tennis world. Spain has been a power house for decades and France too. Just look at the success of Grojean and Clement.

Coria is bad for tennis. Yes, his enthusiam can be compelling at times but he's goes too far. The media often refer's to him as the clay court Hewitt. I agree. His on court antics get old, shouting VAMOOOS every two seconds, questioning calls, pressuring lines people....

Nalbandian is just a cry baby a-hole. Nobody like him. He refuses to get along with the media...I know. He won't learn english even though it's the atp official language....so on.

Canas is maybe (big maybe) the only guy I can stand. There's nothing more annoying in tennis then to watch some guy beat a seeded player and lose the next round. And after him you get a bunch of generic wanna be spaniards.
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Oh yeah, and their all juiced too. Isn't it obvious?
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G.O. trying to be witty I see? Nice semi-troll by the way.

You must be living in the dark ages Nalbandian actually speaks English and doesn't use translators and you are having a go at his English, and how well does Coria speak English? Why should he get along with the media, if they don't ask intelligent questions well at least more than the one or two that they do now and then?

Please get something resembling a clue, though your stereotyping was funny to say the least. Though at least with Coria there were some points that made sense.
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I'm sorry for trying to be witty. I don't mean to be.
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Nalbandian speaks a little, but he sucks. And Coria none. I'm in the media and I ask very good questions. He just has some chip on his shoulder. Bad attitude.
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Nalbandian speaks a little, but he sucks. And Coria none. I'm in the media and I ask very good questions. He just has some chip on his shoulder. Bad attitude.
So you claim to be in the media then? Actually I have to say I am pleased that you have graced us minions with your presence.

Btw, if you had that attitude with me if I was interviewed I would be a prick as well and English is actually my 3rd language, so there is an advantage of being a prick in more than language. Just to make sure I am right here are you from an English-speaking country? Not everyone here has the flag on their profile that reflects where they come from.

You could easily criticise Ferrero for not speaking English well, so why don't you?
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Nalbandian speaks a little, but he sucks. And Coria none. I'm in the media and I ask very good questions. He just has some chip on his shoulder. Bad attitude.
I forgot how fluent Andre and Andy are in French, Italian or Spanish

What's happening here is easy.... Argies are having great success so now they'll will be added to the clay court players cathegory where all Spaniards are even if they own tittles in almost all surfaces

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