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Andy Murray's Ranking Post The 2008 U.S. Open?

Should Andy Murray win St.Petersburg he will be world #12 and should he also qualify for Shanghai he should finish the year ranked inside the Top 10.

Next year he hardly has any ranking points to defend in 7 significant tournaments that occur between the Monte Carlo Masters Series event and the U.S. Open.

By the conclusion of the 2008 U.S. Open wwhere do you predict that his ranking will most likely be?

Inside the Top 5 next to Djokovic?
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If he's healthy, between 3-6 without a doubt.
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Interesting to see whether he can match or even better his 2007 start...
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Any reason # 2 is no an option? If you make a poll at least put some thought into it.
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Inside the Top 5 next to Djokovic?
Djokovic will drop out of top 5, in the period between RG and Wimbledon or at least the week after Wimbly.
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Djokovic will drop out of top 5, in the period between RG and Wimbledon or at least the week after Wimbly.

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Any reason # 2 is no an option? If you make a poll at least put some thought into it.
Because the one currently occupying #2 wont be giving it away anytime soon.

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Well, I went for a pessimistic 7-10 although if I could choose my group of 4 ranking places I would go for 5-8, right in the middle of the ones you chose.

Top 10 is almost guarunteed if he stays healthy in my opinion, he's just too good to not be there.

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Peering into my crystal ball, after 08 USO, i see (subject to change)

1. Federer
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3. Djokovic
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Peering into my crystal ball, after 08 USO, i see (subject to change)

1. Federer
2. Nadal
3. Djokovic
4. Murray
5. Some other clown, Gasquet, perhaps

I didn't think Koyla will do us the favour and leave the top 5


watch out for David as top 5 after Wimbledon
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Peering into my crystal ball, after 08 USO, i see (subject to change)

1. Federer
2. Nadal
3. Djokovic
4. Murray
5. Some other clown, Gasquet, perhaps
I see the same top 3 but I also see them all within 1500 points of each other as maximum, very possibly less. I also wouldn't be surprised if Nadal had taken the #1 spot earlier in the year before Federer added points at IW and Miami to take it back.

Thing is, as the rest of the game gets more competative with Federer losing more and more competent challengers to the thrown, if Nadal can continue to dominate clay as easily as he's been doing the last few years that block of points he gets will begin to look larger and larger.

So you see Davydenko and Roddick going away huh? Any particular reasons or just a hunch? There's no doubt in my mind that Davydenko is superior to Gasquet on all but grass and Roddick is always going to be stronger at consistent performances in big events because he can hold serve, grind out a break and beat lower ranked opposition in a way Gasquet will never be able to.

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I see the same top 3 but I also see them all within 1500 points of each other as maximum, very possibly less. I also wouldn't be surprised if Nadal had taken the #1 spot earlier in the year before Federer added points at IW and Miami to take it back.

Thing is, as the rest of the game gets more competative with Federer losing more and more competent challengers to the thrown, if Nadal can continue to dominate clay as easily as he's been doing the last few years that block of points he gets will begin to look larger and larger.

So you see Davydenko and Roddick going away huh? Any particular reasons or just a hunch? There's no doubt in my mind that Davydenko is superior to Gasquet on all but grass and Roddick is always going to be stronger at consistent performances in big events because he can hold serve, grind out a break and beat lower ranked opposition in a way Gasquet will never be able to.
Roddick I am really unsure of. Hes lost to all the young guns this year, and his "DC till I die" attitude since USO has cost him some points he could have easily earned in Madrid and Paris. He will still serve big and stay in the top 10, no doubt. If Gasquet and Murray do what they're capable of and pull it together, as it seems both have done better this year, Roddick is outclassed and will be in the 6-10 range.

As for Davydenko, i think that is more wishful thinking on my part The guy is way too boring and consistent for my tastes. SF/QF of all 30 tourneys he enters cant last forever. Also, the gambling allegations and watchful eyes of ATP might take a toll.

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btw, I also see Nadal taking #1 from Federer between AO and IW, if only for a few weeks, but then Federer will gain it back in IW.

The "trinity" next year will be neck and neck all year with Nole and Nadal entering the early portions of their primes and Federer's prime on the tail end

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Roddick I am really unsure of. Hes lost to all the young guns this year, and his "DC till I die" attitude since USO has cost him some points he could have easily earned in Madrid and Paris. He will still serve big and stay in the top 10, no doubt. If Gasquet and Murray do what they're capable of and pull it together, as it seems both have done better this year, Roddick is outclassed and will be in the 6-10 range.

As for Davydenko, i think that is more wishful thinking on my part The guy is way too boring and consistent for my tastes. SF/QF of all 30 tourneys he enters cant last forever. Also, the gambling allegations and watchful eyes of ATP might take a toll.
Fair thing on Roddick but what I said about the consistency is still true and Gasquet can win a tournament beating Roddick on the way and then lose 1st round three times in a row and if Roddick plugs away with SF's and QF's he will still be ahead. The season is 11 months not just a few spectacular performances and this is coming from a Gasquet fan.

Davydenko is boring on court but his tennis is fantastic, probably the most attacking baseliner in the world who doesn't have a big serve. Well, the thing with Davydenko haters is they all attribute his success to playing all these tourneys but the fact of it is he has tremendous results where it matters most although watching him choke over and over in slam SF's isn't great fun.

Nalbandian is one we will have to watch for. I still don't believe he will come back to the top 8 consistently but I think winning Madrid will have given him belief he may not have had for a long time. I don't think he would've beaten a top form Nadal in Madrid due to confidence but Nadal's weak performance and his great one gave him the confidence and once he had that he was a joy to watch at times.

My own opinion on Murray is that he is going to be like Roddick in that he gets the job done against weaker players and this is probably due to his good tennis brain and variety. He can use whatever he needs to use to get the job done and no it isn't always pretty but that's tennis for you. However, unlike Roddick, I think he has the technical ability to go head to head with the top players and come out on top every now and then. He isn't ever going to be as good as Federer on any surface but he can probably beat Djokovic a certain percentage of the time on all surfaces but clay and the same goes for Nadal.

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