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If God ended choking, what would be the current top 10?

There are players with such an incredible ammount of skill and are hurt by their choking, obviously the first one that comes to mind is Safin but lets say god ended choking, obviously guys like Baghdatis and Safin would be way higher, Roddick would also be a menace while guys like Davidenko in my opinion wouldn't be that high because the reason why they do so good is because they are consistent, not exactly special in any way.

I think number 1 and 2 would be the same, Roger and Rafa but Safin would be fighting for that second spot with rafa and also the distance from #1 and #2 would be very close.
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Re: If God ended choking, what would be the current top 10?

Davydenko would be number 1.
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Re: If God ended choking, what would be the current top 10?

You're asking "Who would be the #1 player on talent alone?". Choking covers a lot less than this thread wants it to.
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Re: If God ended choking, what would be the current top 10?

God just can´t eliminate choking. It's a funny force bigger than Himself.
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There are players with such an incredible ammount of skill and are hurt by their choking, obviously the first one that comes to mind is Safin but lets say god ended choking, obviously guys like Baghdatis and Safin would be way higher, Roddick would also be a menace while guys like Davidenko in my opinion wouldn't be that high because the reason why they do so good is because they are consistent, not exactly special in any way.

I think number 1 and 2 would be the same, Roger and Rafa but Safin would be fighting for that second spot with rafa and also the distance from #1 and #2 would be very close.
Baggy's problem is not that he chokes, he is just stupid. He's clueless on court. He doesn't know when to step up, when to just keep the ball in play, when to takes something off his 1st serve to keep a higher percentage etc.

Safin just plains sucks, nothing to do with choking. He's happy to give the impression that he doesn't care to dig deep anymore, maybe afraid to find out that his best isn't good enough anymore, still living off his 2005 Federer win, happy to keep the myth that at his best, when he cares-> he is unbeatable.

Davydenko is a MAJOR choker.

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Of course, this is based on the assumption that 1. there is a God and 2. that losing a lead in a match is always choking.
True that loosing a lead in a match in not always choking but i saw some MAJOR choke today from a few of the Masters contenders.
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Re: If God ended choking, what would be the current top 10?

It would be exactly what it is today.
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Re: If God ended choking, what would be the current top 10?

Baghdatis chokes occasionally. Yes he did it against Federer but on the whole it is just poor shot selection and that ain't choking.

Safin is not a top 20 player anymore evn if he was mentally strong. He just isn't that good.

Funny thing is, lately Davydenko has been a bigger choker than either of those two and yet he is the guy who won't move up much. Davydenko - choking would have an RG final under his belt this year.

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Re: If God ended choking, what would be the current top 10?

Ironicaly, Safin would then not have won Australian open 2005 where Federer clearly choked.
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God just can´t eliminate choking. It's a funny force bigger than Himself.

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Ironicaly, Safin would then not have won Australian open 2005 where Federer clearly choked.

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Re: If God ended choking, what would be the current top 10?

the weird thing about baghdatis is that his tactical sense and point construction in 06 slams runs was very good.

Dunno what happened to him since then. He played on instinct before and now i guess he cant rely on it anymore. But no question, baghdatis can be clueless.

Davydenko would be ranked higher, so would james flake and roddick would be lower.

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Re: If God ended choking, what would be the current top 10?

Mathieu has a fantastic looking game, if only he were mentally more capable.
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Ironicaly, Safin would then not have won Australian open 2005 where Federer clearly choked.
How did Federer choke in that match?
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Re: If God ended choking, what would be the current top 10?

Federer certainly wouldn't be 1, that's for sure


cause guys like Davy and Djoker (note the Open) and god knows who else wouldn't be terrified of winning a key point against him


in other words, everyone else would play real tennis against him, joining Willy as the only player who does so in reality
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