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How many of todays players would be legends if it weren't for Federer?

There are plenty of incredible talents out there, Rafa, Djokovic, Gasquet, Roddick etc.

How many of these guys do you think would be living legends if only Roger had chosen football instead of tennis?

I mena, Roddick is the first choise, Americans would think he was the next sampras, if Fed wasn't around Roddick would already have, what, at least 4 slams? (let's say he would have won those finals) I will go as far as to say that if Roddick had won this years semifinal against Fed in the australian open, with the level he had in that open he would have beaten gonzales in the final, so maybe even 5 slams.

Rafa could, potentialy be a 5 slam champion by now if it weren't for roger, plus also the mental aspect of the whole thing, the fact that roger is playing in a slam puts many players in a mindset of "ok we know who's gona win anyways" and they may not try their best. so just the fact that Roger is around may be impeding many other carrers who would otherwise be considered great by now. Like maybe a player with incredible potential doesn't have the same drive to achieve success as he would have if Roger weren't around because the mental hurdle is there already.

Who do you guys think would be the "Roger Federer" of today if Roger weren't around?

I think it would actualy be Roddick, I know it sounds stupid but if Roger weren't around I think he would be the leading multiple grandslam champion of this younger generation with Nadal closing in behind him really fast.
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There are plenty of incredible talents out there, Rafa, Djokovic, Gasquet, Roddick etc.

How many of these guys do you think would be living legends if only Roger had chosen football instead of tennis?

I mena, Roddick is the first choise, Americans would think he was the next sampras, if Fed wasn't around Roddick would already have, what, at least 4 slams? (let's say he would have won those finals) I will go as far as to say that if Roddick had won this years semifinal against Fed in the australian open, with the level he had in that open he would have beaten gonzales in the final, so maybe even 5 slams.

Rafa could, potentialy be a 5 slam champion by now if it weren't for roger, plus also the mental aspect of the whole thing, the fact that roger is playing in a slam puts many players in a mindset of "ok we know who's gona win anyways" and they may not try their best. so just the fact that Roger is around may be impeding many other carrers who would otherwise be considered great by now. Like maybe a player with incredible potential doesn't have the same drive to achieve success as he would have if Roger weren't around because the mental hurdle is there already.

Who do you guys think would be the "Roger Federer" of today if Roger weren't around?

I think it would actualy be Roddick, I know it sounds stupid but if Roger weren't around I think he would be the leading multiple grandslam champion of this younger generation
with Nadal closing in behind him really fast.
First Roddick could be a legend? And Roger Federer of today?
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First Roddick could be a legend? And Roger Federer of today?
That's the thing, the reason why we think of Roddick and the words "legend" as funny is because of how many times we've seen him lose and get owned, specialy be Roger but if Roger weren't around, let's face it, there's a high chance Roddick would have several grand slam titles including wimbledons and no one would laugh at him, maybe they wouldn't call him a living legend but there would be no current player to compare him to, he would be even leading rafa in grandslam titles so if nobody laughs at Rafa, nobody should laugh at Roddick (if that were the case)

Since Roger is around and he bitches andy around easily then it's ok to say he sucks i guess
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Re: How many of todays players would be legends if it weren't for Federer?

I have no doubt that Roddick would have multiple grand slam titles without Federer (even keeping in mind the lesser players that have upset Roddick in majors).

Hewitt is another one who has lost finals and semifinals to Roger since Roger became dominant. Likely that he would have at least one more major under his belt.

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That's the thing, the reason why we think of Roddick and the words "legend" as funny is because of how many times we've seen him lose and get owned, specialy be Roger but if Roger weren't around, let's face it, there's a high chance Roddick would have several grand slam titles including wimbledons and no one would laugh at him, maybe they wouldn't call him a living legend but there would be no current player to compare him to, he would be even leading rafa in grandslam titles so if nobody laughs at Rafa, nobody should laugh at Roddick (if that were the case)

Since Roger is around and he bitches andy around easily then it's ok to say he sucks i guess
Without Roger, Roddick would lose to Djokovic and Nadal (who I hate to admit is a better player than him). Sure, he might have one or two more GSs but I wouldn't call him a legend, just someone with multiple GSs.
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Without Roger, Roddick would lose to Djokovic and Nadal (who I hate to admit is a better player than him). Sure, he might have one or two more GSs but I wouldn't call him a legend, just someone with multiple GSs.
it really depends on what Roddick shows up, the roddick in the Australian Open was on a tear, I don't think Djokovic or Rafa (from that tournament specialy) could have beaten him. also, Roddick would beat Rafa on grass, rather easily I suspect. djokovic would give him more trouble. the thing is, Roddick can really suck sometimes
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it really depends on what Roddick shows up, the roddick in the Australian Open was on a tear, I don't think Djokovic or Rafa (from that tournament specialy) could have beaten him. also, Roddick would beat Rafa on grass, rather easily I suspect. djokovic would give him more trouble. the thing is, Roddick can really suck sometimes
The understatement of the century

If Roddick played like he did at this year's USO he could give Rafa a run for his money on hardcourts. Clay never. With Djokovic, Djokovic will beat him 9 times out of 10.

It's insulting that even without Roger, you say Roddick could be one of the greats. Without Roger, Safin or Nalbandian could be the greats of their generation.
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Re: How many of todays players would be legends if it weren't for Federer?

If he played against Nadal or Djokovic the way he played against Federer in this US Open I couldn't see them beating him.
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it really depends on what Roddick shows up, the roddick in the Australian Open was on a tear, I don't think Djokovic or Rafa (from that tournament specialy) could have beaten him. also, Roddick would beat Rafa on grass, rather easily I suspect. djokovic would give him more trouble. the thing is, Roddick can really suck sometimes


They'd all be legends ALL OF THEM. Damn that Federer!
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I have no doubt that Roddick would have multiple grand slam titles without Federer (even keeping in mind the lesser players that have upset Roddick in majors).

Hewitt is another one who has lost finals and semifinals to Roger since Roger became dominant. Likely that he would have at least one more major under his belt.
Andy can easy controll Glass Court, NO one can beat him out of here.

Djok, Nadal, aslo James...All got a great chance to win GS, MS

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Playing on glass? And people complain that the courts are being slowed down

The last two people to beat Roddick on grass were Gasquet and Murray, so to say Federer is the only one who can do it is total BS.
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Andy can easy controll Glass Court, NO one can beat him out of here.

Djok, Nadal, aslo James...All got a great chance to win GS, MS
only Voltchkov might beat Andy on glass

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They'd all be legends ALL OF THEM. Damn that Federer!
Nadal, Roddick, Safin, Nalbandian, Haas, Davydenko, Djokovic, Blake, Fish, Genepri all would have the chance of winning 5 slams each and be inducted into the HOF if it weren't for Fed's existence. Heck, the lady who picks up trash around my uni campus could be a contender.
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The understatement of the century

If Roddick played like he did at this year's USO he could give Rafa a run for his money on hardcourts. Clay never. With Djokovic, Djokovic will beat him 9 times out of 10.

It's insulting that even without Roger, you say Roddick could be one of the greats. Without Roger, Safin or Nalbandian could be the greats of their generation.
Djokovic will beat him 9 times out of 10 on Clay, ====---------- I said YES/

But, Andy is not worse than Djok on Hard Court, if Roger is not here.

And He will easy control Glass.

Safin and Nalbandian.... This two both denpends theirselves. They don't care Roger, They got great winning record against ROger, if they are playing their best tennis, they got more than 65% chance to beat Roger.

This two are unbelievable, they can win any unbelievable Match, if they want to.

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Djok, Nadal, aslo James...All got a great chance to win GS, MS
Djokovic and Nadal have great chances to win Slams and MS even with Federer around. Do you mean James Blake? I don't think Fed is the only reason he hasn't won a Slam or a MS.
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