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Hi people.. i'm new to the tennis world,, i've been trying to come out how the ATP points work , but i couldn't figure it out,, so, well some one explaine how does it work, how a player get points, how he some lose points ,, GO NADAL!!
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Hi people.. i'm new to the tennis world,, i've been trying to come out how the ATP points work , but i couldn't figure it out,, so, well some one explaine how does it work, how a player get points, how he some lose points ,, GO NADAL!!
There are two Ranking systems:

The Champions Race counts all the points collected in one year of January until December.

The Entry Ranking counts all points collected in the last 52 weeks.

Depending on how much prizemoney a tournament pays the number of points given out differs. A Grand-Slam tournament gives out more points than a normal (or here sometimes called "MickeyMouse") tournament.

A player gets points when he wins matches in a tournament. He loses points if he plays this year worse than he played last year. He keeps his points if he makes the same result like last year.

For example Rafa kept the points of Roland Garros, cause he achieved the same result there like last year. He lost points at US Open cause he was this year worse than last year. He won points at the Masters in Canada, cause he was better this year than last year. So that is the system shortly explained.

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http://www.atptennis.com/en/players/...q.asp#rankwork


There, all explained nicely.

Notice how it's called 'The South African Airways ATP Ranking' right now, but yesteryear it was 'Indesit ATP Ranking'.

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What is so roll eyes about that?
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What is so roll eyes about that?
Roger, being half South African, obviously has some big money in South African Airways, hence he simply bought his No. 1 ATP ranking till 2012 (at least) - not risking anything with so many youngsters coming up
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There are two Ranking systems:

The Champions Race counts all the points collected in one year of January until December.

The Entry Ranking counts all points collected in the last 52 weeks.
The Champion Race points only include ATP tournaments and Slams while entry reanking points have challengers and futures on top.
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The Champions race is not a ranking system. Stop bringing this up. It's a race for the Masters Cup and Masters Cup ONLY. There is no other purpose to it.

Here are the rankings: http://www.atptennis.com/3/en/rankings/entrysystem/

To figure out how they work, click on a player profile, look at activity and you can note how many points the player amasses per tournament. Winning a major, for example, nets you 1000 points. Winning a masters series event, like Canada, nets you 500.
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Nobody seems to have mentioned that only the top 18 scores are counted (no doubt it was covered in the ATP link but that is a lot of stuff to read through )

Players ranked highly enough to get direct entry into slams and Masters tournaments have to include them in the 18 - if for some reason they do not play they have to include a zero in their 18.

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Also, the participants of Masters Cup get their result there counted as the extra 19th tournament.
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Re: ATP ranking

Here's another link that might help a little bit (just ignore the bit about 'round robin', that's just there for the laugh ).

http://stevegtennis.com/entrypoints.txt

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I was always wondering why the ATP website stated whoever had the most race points at the end of the year was #1 in the world. Shouldn't it be entry points? Or is it not possible to get year end #1 without winning the race?

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Re: ATP ranking

By the end of the year, the rankings and the race should match up perfectly for the top players.

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