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What Can Federer Do To Improve His Game?

Everybody is talking about Nadal, Djokovic, or Murray to take over Federer. But by no means any of them are more talented than the man himself. So, what should Federer do as far as improving his minor weaknesses to stay at the top for a couple more years? His serve is already great. His forehand is great but shaky lately. The backhand? The return?
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this year it seems like his unforced error count has skyrocketed. i'm not sure if it's due to risk or lack of concentration, but sometimes he just doesn't appear to be stable enough in matches, losing rallies lots of times.

he might have to cope with the djokovicesque kind of game in the near future, because the "new" player type that is emerging as of now (and i'm not saying roger's old-fashiond already) is a mixture of hewitt and ferrer: good groudnstrokes, being able to hit it hard and running like hell. djokovic is a prototype of this: he's weaker than roger in almost every department basically (he's quickly catching up though, sure) except for one thing: endurance during rallies. he doesn't have any problem grinding it out, 20 strokes, 30 strokes, however long it takes. and with him upping his physical abilities for next year, roger really needs to cut down on those errors during rallies. otherwise novak will simply "do the canas": run like hell and make roger hit errors.

and canas hasn't even got the firepower that djoko has, yet it was enough to hurt roger.
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Re: What Can Federer Do To Improve His Game?

As mentioned in the Charlie Rose show, he should become a better serve and volleyer.
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Re: What Can Federer Do To Improve His Game?

A better question is: What does Federer have to do to convince people that he's still #1 in the world by over 2200 points?

To answer your question, a guess, but...

The main problem is that it's nearly impossible to be dominant on every surface. I think his game changed drastically with the addition of Roche. His backhand and volleying are better. His serve is more of a reliable weapon when he needs it (8 straight first serves to wrap up set #2 against Djokovic).

His forehand has suffered the most, and rather than crushing lines like he was in 2004-2005 (parts of 2006), I think he's putting more spin and angle on it. He has to do this to compete on clay, and so he hits his forehand with seemingly less pace and less aggressively yet with more variety in spins and angles. His angles are so drastic now, especially on the backhand pass/flick--the forehand cc pass is routine, almost expected from him now. His fh is not quite as dominant on hard in long rallies, but from '04-'06, he went from 3R-S-F at the French, and he's stayed up there on clay since. Considering that he's still winning most other tournaments, I'd say he's probably happy with the change.

I'd like to see him mix it back up on hard courts and play more aggressively with the forehand, but if he must pick between winning three "convincingly" (as in not just straight sets against #3, #4, and #5) or having a shot at RG, I'll take the later.

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Re: What Can Federer Do To Improve His Game?

Improve The Second Serve And His Backhand Up The Line
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Re: What Can Federer Do To Improve His Game?

It's very hard to make changes to a game once fully developed. It's not all age related, but rather at the point where the player began development. eg- Stich would finish developing at an older age than Nadal.

Federer has pretty much finished that phase now, so what he should do is work on getting back into shape. If he gets back his old physique, he'll be half a step quicker again.

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Nose job?

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2nd serve return. Overall, his return is rigged for blocking high-speed 1st serves, so he rarely goes for drive-returns. In practice, that sometimes means that a weak 2nd serve is better vs. Roger than a strong one. Whereas guys like Davy or Blake punish such weak serves with amazing aggressive returns, I've often seen Fed just net those.

In the past, it was pretty much good enough since all he wanted was a solid return, deep enough and horizontally in the middle of the field, to prevent easy putaways by robbing the server of any good angle. That was because he was confident enough in his rallying abilities and he just wanted to put as many serves back in play as possible. But right now, I think he should go for some outright return winners off of weak 2nd serves. There are plenty of guys with the 2nd serve weak enough to allow for some really punishing returns.

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He can improve his approach shots, in semi and final he really did kamikaze approaches à la Roddick and got crushed. Thes poor approaches led to bad, because difficult, volleys. But I think his veolley technique his good, it is more his approach tactics and mind set (not a warrior-type like Rafter for example) that are to be improved, especially if he wants to shorten points, getting older.

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Retire after he wins 15 Slams.

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He can improve his approach shots, in semi and final he really did kamikaze approaches à la Roddick and got crushed.
I don't believe in approach shots any more - if by that you mean a shot specifically executed to rush the net in its wake. I don't think it's a good strategy nowadays. Right now you need to hit a shot, wait it fly over the net, consider your opponent's placement, speed and the trajectory of the ball, and then decide if going to the net is a good thing.

Because if the opponent will have enough time to prepare a passer, you're going to look stupid 8 out or 10 times at the net.

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maybe you should ask this to the other players so they can come up with 12 Slams.


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Eat more Fruit n Vegetables to become stronger physical but the main thing is definetely serve n volley,once that's mastered get ready to run and here comes Frenchie!!
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Nose job?
Hell no! It's his lucky charm!
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