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Topsy turvy Tim, the man with the worst form on tour??

This guy is Mr.Enigma, beats Federer or Roddick in one tournament, then lose to some unknown qualifier the next!!!! I really dont see him getting past that 4th round barrier at any other slam apart from Wimbledon. Its just a jinx, he simply cant get past the 4th round at any other Slam. Who reckons hell lose to Blanco next round???
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I reckon you've got the thread all wrong...before i even think about answering the question. "Topsy turvy Tim, the man with the worst form on the tour?!!!!!" How the hell can he be in the worst form? He is winning matches, he is in the top 10 of both rankings lists....need i go on? What a stupid thread!
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yeah haasfan, you dont deserve to have that british flag aside your name
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yeah haasfan, you dont deserve to have that british flag aside your name
Yeah i am criticised now and again for being over patriotic but how on earth does this thread actually relate to Britain's BEST tennis player? Haasfan - do you actually know who Tim Henman is and what he has done this year?
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Yeah let's be more positive. Tim cops more flak from Brits on here than anyone else. I think in both coming from 2 sets down in round 1 and then a comfortable win in round 2 Tim has looked in good form. Good Luck to him tomorrow against Blanco. Blanco will be comfortable on the clay obviously, but Tim has a chance
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I hardly think Tim has the worst form on tour.

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I hardly think Tim has the worst form on tour.
Yea my thoughts exactly. he's pretty much playing about the best tennis of his career lately!

Plus him beating Andy in one tournament and then losing to some lower-ranked player the next one is irrelevant. He also beat Roger in Rotterdam in straight sets and then lost to Hewitt 3 and 3 or something like that the next day. Certain players have problems with other players, Andy does with Tim and Tim does with Lleyton so I don't think you can glean too much about Tim's overall form from that

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Re: Topsy turvy Tim, the man with the worst form on tour??

Haasfan, once again you have showed your lack of a clue and there is no way Henman has the worst form on tour, if you think then you don't watch tennis very closely. Well Corretja and Mantilla are guys for example who have much worse form than Henman this year.

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Ok, I think I should have rephrased it, Tim has the most unpredicatble form, ok lets just look at the facts, he simply cant string more than 2 good tournaments on tour together. Lets look at Aus Open 2002, he wins Adelaide and looks comfortable until he loses to Bjorkman!!!!!!!!! You think once Tim's won a tournament, or beaten Federer that he can go onto new strengths, but he just loses to some qualifier in the next tournament. Name me a phase in Henman's career were hes consistently won tournaments??

I mean its not that I have anything against him, I would more than most ppl like to see him win Wimbledon, because he sure deserves it for all the flak he receives. But look at his GS record, never gone past the fourth of any tournament apart from Wimbledon, in something like 36 attempts.
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Re: Topsy turvy Tim, the man with the worst form on tour??

And the point behind this thread is what? I must have missed something. Henman, worst form? Not a chance. I can think of many players whose form is terribly lacking at the mo, but Tim is not among them....
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Haasfan, I still disagree. I think Tim is playing pretty consistently well, probably among the best he's ever played day in and day out. He's certainly having his best clay-court season, has now reached a personal best result at RG, finals at IW... I dunno I think he's doing ok right now and it's certainly where he wants to be going into the seasons where he has even better chances of doing well!

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Ok, I think I should have rephrased it, Tim has the most unpredicatble form, ok lets just look at the facts, he simply cant string more than 2 good tournaments on tour together. Lets look at Aus Open 2002, he wins Adelaide and looks comfortable until he loses to Bjorkman!!!!!!!!! You think once Tim's won a tournament, or beaten Federer that he can go onto new strengths, but he just loses to some qualifier in the next tournament. Name me a phase in Henman's career were hes consistently won tournaments??

Since when has Bjorkman been someone inferior to lose to?!! The man has been to world number in singles, and is currently number 1 in the world in doubles!! Henman bombing out early after a good run in 1 tournament - rubbish! Here was his run in the first half of the 2002 season to which you refer to, when he didn't have his dreadful shoulder injury:-

Adelaide: WIN
Aus Open: 4th Round (no inferior player)
Rotterdam: Final (Escude = dangerman for Henman)
Dubai: QF (Aussie Open champion)
Indian Wells: Final (Hewitt - says it all)
Miami: 4th Round (neck injury)
Monte Carlo SF (Moya too good as expected)
Rome 1st (suffering from gastroenteritis)
Hamburg 2nd
French Open 2nd (Malisse is another problem player for Tim)
Queen's: Final (Hewitt - once again that man is too good)
Wimbledon SF (Hewitt - starting to get on everyone's nerves now!!)

Haasfan - what on earth is "poor" about those results? After Wimbledon, Tim went up to 2 in the Champions Race! You need your head examined.
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there was 1 stage during 1998 when henman went
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Since when has Bjorkman been someone inferior to lose to?!! The man has been to world number in singles, and is currently number 1 in the world in doubles!! Henman bombing out early after a good run in 1 tournament - rubbish! Here was his run in the first half of the 2002 season to which you refer to, when he didn't have his dreadful shoulder injury:-

Adelaide: WIN
Aus Open: 4th Round (no inferior player)
Rotterdam: Final (Escude = dangerman for Henman)
Dubai: QF (Aussie Open champion)
Indian Wells: Final (Hewitt - says it all)
Miami: 4th Round (neck injury)
Monte Carlo SF (Moya too good as expected)
Rome 1st (suffering from gastroenteritis)
Hamburg 2nd
French Open 2nd (Malisse is another problem player for Tim)
Queen's: Final (Hewitt - once again that man is too good)
Wimbledon SF (Hewitt - starting to get on everyone's nerves now!!)

Haasfan - what on earth is "poor" about those results? After Wimbledon, Tim went up to 2 in the Champions Race! You need your head examined.
Hey, all I can say is that Henman loses so many matches, which he should quite frankly cruise after beating more illustrious opponents. What has he done this year, huh???? You can say Indian Wells, but he got flattened, and then lost to Melzer, I mean if thats not erratic, tell me what is!! The guy just loses all the time, hes very inconsistent, to players you really expect him to beat. Anyway, I never said Tim had poor results in 2002, I just said that defeat against Bjorkman was totally out of the blue, and as usual for Tim he loses in the 2nd or 3rd round of a slam to some player he should beat. All in all he loses so many matches at slams to players that really all quite moderate

Tim is a good player, and fair enough hes far from a failure, and I really would like him to win Wimbledon. All I wanted to state is his frustrating inconsistency, at slams at least, and usually when hes played a barnstorming tourny, then next week loses to someone that again he should not really lose to.
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I'd say Fernando Gonzalez is the most unpredictable of all on the ATP tour
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