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Reasons for Federer not being the greatest ever

I don't want to say Roger is the greatest ever simply because I rather wait till he retires or he is near the end of his carrer, having him say he will play the 2012 olympics in london is a great thing so I rather wait.

Still, everyone has their favorite, some say sampras, some say laver, some say borg. (thats usualy the 3 people come up with)

When asking for reasons on why these players are better than Roger, one usualy gets this responses

Sampras is the best becuase -- he has more slams than everybody else, 14. Roger, at the moment, has 12

Borg is the best because -- he was extremly dominant in both clay and grass but his greatest achievement is wining 5 wimbledons in a row.

Rod Laver is the best because -- 2 grand slams, this is hard to top

it also has to do with country of birth. a lot of americans will say Sampras, a lot of north europeans will say Borg, a lot of Australians will say Laver.


What I am trying to say is, if anybody denies Roger the title of greatest ever and instead dons it to any of these 3 players I mentioned. are they ready to face the facts when Roger breaks the record for which they are regardes the best?

in other words, Sampras fans clinch to the #14 number, saying he will allways be the best, I even heard them say Roger sucks, are they ready to admit Roger is the best ever when he passes that number? they would be contradicting themselves if they dont, as the sole reason for Sampras being called best ever is the number of slams he won and Roger will pass that number.

Rod Laver fans will say, Roger will never get 2 calendar year slams, still, one can make the case the Rocket wouldn't have won those slams if the slams were being played in 3 surfaces rather than two, Federer would already also have 2 calendar year slams in a row if it werent because he had to play the best clay court player EVER in the history of the planet in the final. twice.

With Borg one can easily say, Well, he dominated clay and grass, Roger hasnt won the french open.. this is true but Borg never won the US Open, he tried 9 times I think, Roger already won it 4 times in a row. so a case can be made there.

So, is everyone, fan of roger or hater, doesn't matter, ready to eventualy call Roger the greatest player who ever lived? as his resume seems to be at least as good (if not better) than the competition. or will many of you never give him the credit he desserves, even if he wins 5 more slams.

IF you don't think Federer is the greatest (or will become the greatest ever) could you please post who you think is the greatest ever and why?

I will start. even tho I think Roger will deserve the title, I am not ready to give it to him simply because his carreer is still going. so If I had to say I will say

best ever, Rod Laver

reason. 2 calendar year slams (even if its just 2 surfaces) means that for these 2 years, this guy was a god in tennis and everyone knelt before him
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Re: Reasons for Federer not being the greatest ever

your point? all the things you said. everyone knows that already and has been discussed here like a gazillion times
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well, I wasn't here in those gazilion times, my point is I want to know who most people think the greatest ever is, and why.
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I reckon Sebastien Grosjean is the greatest player of all time simply because he possesses the best forehand of all time.

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Re: Reasons for Federer not being the greatest ever

Santoro is the greatest because uses both arms

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Xristos is the greatest ever.

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James Blake is the greatest because it sounds like he's having rough sex when he hits his forehand.

He also has the ugliest one-hand backhand i've ever seen.
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On Nadal bumping him on the changeover, Rosol said: "It's ok, he wanted to take my concentration; I knew he would try something".


Wilander on Dimitrov - "He has mind set on imitating Federer and yes it looks good. But he has no idea what to do on the court".

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I definitely would have preferred Gaba winning as he needs the points much more, but Jan would have beaten him anyway. I expect Hajek to destroy Machado, like 6-1 6-2.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKnE--CmXs0

On Nadal bumping him on the changeover, Rosol said: "It's ok, he wanted to take my concentration; I knew he would try something".


Wilander on Dimitrov - "He has mind set on imitating Federer and yes it looks good. But he has no idea what to do on the court".

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I definitely would have preferred Gaba winning as he needs the points much more, but Jan would have beaten him anyway. I expect Hajek to destroy Machado, like 6-1 6-2.
Machado wins 6-2 6-1
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This post reminds me of this classic.....

"I wish i had an extra set of hands so i could give you 4 thumbs down"....Rick James (a.k.a Dave Chappele)
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Re: Reasons for Federer not being the greatest ever

Federer isn't the greatest as his achievements simply don't compare to Nalbandian's. Dave boasts the following accomplishments on his CV:
1 - He won the Sante Fe Cup this year which is the holy grail and pinnacle of tennis.
2 - He possesses a 10 match winning streak at Estoril, the tournament which is the ultimate test of a player's claycourt prowess.
3 - His rendition of 'As Long As You Love Me' by the Backstreet Boys was just as angelic and even more divine than his backhand.
4 - His donut consumption/second ratio is simply unprecedented amongst professional sportsmen.
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Re: Reasons for Federer not being the greatest ever

Currently Sampras, Federer, buy this time next year, will be th ebest of all time

LONG LIVE THE KING

1.Federer
2.Tsonga
3.Safin
4.Roddick
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Re: Reasons for Federer not being the greatest ever

Federer isn't the greatest as his achievements simply don't compare to Nalbandian's. Dave boasts the following accomplishments on his CV:
1 - He won the Sante Fe Cup this year which is the holy grail and pinnacle of tennis.
2 - He possesses a 10 match winning streak at Estoril, the tournament which is the ultimate test of a player's claycourt prowess.
3 - His rendition of 'As Long As You Love Me' by the Backstreet Boys was just as angelic and even more divine than his backhand.
4 - His donut consumption/second ratio is simply unprecedented amongst professional sportsmen.


Whoever typed that is a funny person thats gold

LONG LIVE THE KING

1.Federer
2.Tsonga
3.Safin
4.Roddick
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